Steve Fossett

[lordmonar]

I don't think it can be considered as OPSEC when it's on TV.

Even if it has been reported on TV by someone in CAP....they may be authorised to talk about it...but you are not.

Sometimes reporters just need an "unnamed CAP member" to confirm something and get it into print.

Go look at what happened Lt Col Ryan and you will see what I mean.

[PHall]

The CAWG/CC sent out an e-mail reminding everybody in the wing to refer all inquiries to National/PA.
He also reminded everybody in CAWG to not talk to the media, period.
I guess the ghost of Lt Col Ryan is still haunting this place.

[Flying Pig]

Wow....CAP isnt even involved and we are already putting out notices like we had something to do with what happened today.

[wingnut55]

Ditto, on OPSEC, you all hope he is not found in a Grid you searched, I am glad we will have a final answer for his Family and the world.

But I am ready to go, rough area too

[bosshawk]

I have already volunteered to fly and have a crew available.  At 1700L, PDT, no alert for CAWG.  Guess that I'll go to the Sheriff's SAR Team and American Legion meetings tonight.

[PHall]

you all hope he is not found in a Grid you searched,

I wouldn't be too concerned. With all of the variables, i.e. sun angle, shadows, ground cover, etc, it's real easy to not see a target, especially in rugged terrain like the search area has.
I'm willing to bet that the grid he was found in was covered at least four times, minimum.

[flyerthom]

I don't think it can be considered as OPSEC when it's on TV.

I should have been more clear. What I would caution about is anything like:

Hey guys, I betcha this is what happened - yadda yadda speculation yadda yadda.


In the am from Newz a da werld = Headline

CAP ANNOUNCED  ON CAPTALK - YADDA YADDA YADDA

Lets keep it to just what we've been saying.

[simon]

Photos of Fosset's found pilot's certificate and a $100 bill:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gfmXbQn-RFLHSjd8_s23ytiM6OVAD93I69UO1

[♠SARKID♠]

The news outlets are reporting that they have found possible wreckage.  No details on aircraft type or any such thing and authorities are rightfully advising that it could be an unrelated crash.

[davidsinn]

The UK Times are reporting about conspiracy theories and lost credibility with me with this little gem:

The Civil Air Patrol sent up Black Hawk helicopters with heat-seeking equipment

[notaNCO forever]

The UK Times are reporting about conspiracy theories and lost credibility with me with this little gem:

The Civil Air Patrol sent up Black Hawk helicopters with heat-seeking equipment

Are OPSEC is so good none of us have actually heard about the blackhawks yet.

[A.Member]

Looks like they found the wreckage:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431605,00.html

[Flying Pig]

Although, it doesnt say anything about his body being recovered.

[MIKE]

The UK Times are reporting about conspiracy theories and lost credibility with me with this little gem:

The Civil Air Patrol sent up Black Hawk helicopters with heat-seeking equipment

Are OPSEC is so good none of us have actually heard about the blackhawks yet.

I'm a FLIR operator on a CAP MH-60. 

[Nathan]

The UK Times are reporting about conspiracy theories and lost credibility with me with this little gem:

The Civil Air Patrol sent up Black Hawk helicopters with heat-seeking equipment

Dude... that's... awesome...

We're going to have a bunch of people from England showing up at CAP bases across the country asking to fly in the black helicopters now...

[N Harmon]

Another story:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-02-fossett_N.htm

[LtCol White]

I don't think it can be considered as OPSEC when it's on TV.

Still, specualation in a public forum by CAP members is not a good thing. The previous incident caused a big "poo storm" and we need to make sure that it doesn't happen again. Just be cautious of your opinions expressed here so that they cannot be misconstrued or misquoted and taken out of context.

[Flying Pig]

The Madera County Sheriff announced that the plane made an obvious head on collision into a large rock and that the wreckage was scattered up slop with the engine being found about 300 feet from the impact site.  The ID's that were found were likely scattered during the impact or by animals.  No body located.  Sheriff Andersen reported that the aircraft "virtually disintegrated" on impact.

[JoeTomasone]

Go look at what happened Lt Col Ryan and you will see what I mean.

I must have missed this.... Details?

[lordmonar]

Go look at what happened Lt Col Ryan and you will see what I mean.

I must have missed this.... Details?

Basic outlines....she fell prey to a member of the press from the UK and got her name in the paper with an embarrassing 'quote".  Because she was a member of the Nation PIO team and she did not get permission before she talk to this guy....she got fired.

Here on CAPTalk and Cadetstuff her name got dragged through the mud by everyone who assumed she was just another incompetent CAP staffer.