Why shouldn't there be designated outergarments for CAP distinctive uniforms?

[SARMedTech]

Did I miss something?

I thought that the Blue M65 was okay for BBDU's and that the Black A-2 jacket was the outer garment of choice for the blue utility and/or blue flightsuit (?)

This is the practice across the board in my squadron, among the members of the so-called "fat and fuzzy" brigade.

[Eclipse]

Did I miss something?

I thought that the Blue M65 was okay for BBDU's and that the Black A-2 jacket was the outer garment of choice for the blue utility and/or blue flightsuit (?)

Yes, they are - but there's a difference between "ok" and prescribed.

The USAF-Style uniforms all have a strict prescription regarding what can be worn over them, most of the corporates have a civilian "whatever" choice.

[Dragoon]

In the interest of low cost (and the fact that we'll never get everyone to dress exactly alike anyway), I'd love to see us standardize on a color for outer garments, even if no specific garment was chosen.

Blue would have been nice, but since we've already got specified black outerwear for the TPU, plus a black leather jacket that you can wear with almost everything else, I vote for black as the outer color.

Why not just specify for the golf shirt, BBDU, utility, flight and white and greys that "Commercial outergarments may be worn, but must be black with with no additional markings or colors visible."  (or if you wanna be fancy, you could mandate the Command patch be worn.)

Keeps the cost low, but adds a measure of uniformity.  You can pick up a cheap black windbreaker for under $20.  And black M-65s and nylon flight jackets are available just about everywhere.

[RiverAux]

I could go for that especially since with black it will avoid a lot of the issues we see with different shadings of supposedly the same color (gray pants)

[SARMedTech]

Where did this whole black thing come from?  Why not blue, as in a color that actually co-ordinates with the rest of the corporate uniforms?

[Hawk200]

Where did this whole black thing come from?  Why not blue, as in a color that actually co-ordinates with the rest of the corporate uniforms?

You'd have to ask those that prescribed the black Army outergarments for the CSU variations.

Since those items are already black, standardizing on black would be easier.

Additionally, there are far more shades of blue out there. Black is a fairly standard color. It would also avoid any problems of some items that look close to Air Force items, but not close enough that there would be issues.

[RiverAux]

Blue would be better, but unless we actually picked a specific outgarment and a particular shade (which I wouldn't mind), we would end up with just as many shades of blue as we have shades of gray pants now.  The simplest, cheapest solution would be to at least have a standard color but allow variation in style. 

[Dragoon]

Methinks they went with black so as to be able to claim "see, it's not a USAF uniform."

So somehow, wearing Army outergarments is OK, but USAF ones aren't.  Sheesh.

Anyhow, what's done is done.  Add to that the Black A-2 (which seems to be pretty popular) and the fact that black pretty much comes in one shade (while blue comes in MANY) and I think I can live with black outergarments.

But yeah, I would have liked blue better.

[O-Rex]

Methinks they went with black so as to be able to claim "see, it's not a USAF uniform."

It's all about semantics: the statement above was what spawned the white/blue corporates in the first place.

[billford1]

What's funny is I get to wear an AF blue gaberdine sweater with my gray and white shirt uniform. Some people at wing thought that looked screwed up and I had to confirm for them that it was legal. I have a blue M-65 that I can wear with my BBDU which is just fine.