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Non-Distress Find

Started by C1128Chief, May 09, 2017, 03:07:03 PM

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C1128Chief

I have 2 non-Distress finds. I cannot find where it tells you how many Non- Distress finds it takes to receive a bronze clasp.
C/MSgt Laramie Uhles
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Alaric

Quote from: LUhles575451 on May 09, 2017, 03:07:03 PM
I have 2 non-Distress finds. I cannot find where it tells you how many Non- Distress finds it takes to receive a bronze clasp.
C/MSgt Laramie Uhles

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d. Search "Find" Ribbon. Awarded by the wing commander (or a subordinate commander if authority is delegated by the wing commander) to any CAP member of the wing making a find (distress or non-distress) on a search and rescue mission. A "distress find" is defined as one involving downed aircraft or persons in distress. Normally, a definite search objective must have been assigned, located and positively identified. All other finds will be classified as "non-distress," e.g., location of non-distress emergency locator transmitters (ELTs). The basic ribbon is awarded for a first find (distress or non-distress). A bronze clasp is awarded for each additional distress find or for each additional 20 non-distress finds. Both aircrew and ground team members may receive credit for finds. Also, if desired, the Search "Find' Ribbon may be painted on the aircraft in which the find was made.

Mustang

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So this came up recently.


Member 1: first find made was non-distress, followed by two distress finds. Member is authorized Find ribbon with two bronze triangular clasps. Rationale: basic ribbon for first find, two bronze clasps for each subsequent distress find.


Member 2: first find made was distress, followed by a non-distress find and another distress find. Member is authorized Find ribbon with one bronze triangular clasp. Rationale: basic ribbon for first find, nothing for non-distress find until another 19 are made, one bronze triangular clasp for 2nd distress find.


Same number of finds, but different number of attachments authorized based solely on the order earned.  Seems...arbitrary.


Thoughts?
"Amateurs train until they get it right; Professionals train until they cannot get it wrong. "


lordmonar

Quote from: Mustang on June 18, 2017, 08:04:52 AM
So this came up recently.


Member 1: first find made was non-distress, followed by two distress finds. Member is authorized Find ribbon with two bronze triangular clasps. Rationale: basic ribbon for first find, two bronze clasps for each subsequent distress find.


Member 2: first find made was distress, followed by a non-distress find and another distress find. Member is authorized Find ribbon with one bronze triangular clasp. Rationale: basic ribbon for first find, nothing for non-distress find until another 19 are made, one bronze triangular clasp for 2nd distress find.


Same number of finds, but different number of attachments authorized based solely on the order earned.  Seems...arbitrary.


Thoughts?
Not really arbitrary......but not well thought out.   

PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP