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 91 
 on: March 24, 2017, 11:14:38 AM 
Started by xray328 - Last post by xray328
You still have time by the way, they just have to be received by 15 April.


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 92 
 on: March 24, 2017, 11:10:24 AM 
Started by xray328 - Last post by xray328
That's my understanding.  The 39-3 doesn't say why, it just says to send a copy of the Form 120 to Group and Wing but it doesn't say "for their approval".


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 93 
 on: March 24, 2017, 10:59:45 AM 
Started by xray328 - Last post by Eclipse
The award needs to be submitted on a CAPF 120, one copy is sent to the VFW National HQ, the other is sent up the chain to Group and Wing.

If this just for their info?

 94 
 on: March 24, 2017, 10:46:06 AM 
Started by xray328 - Last post by xray328
We recently submitted a request for the VFW Cadet Officer and NCO of the Year awards.  I just wanted to share some helpful information.

The award needs to be submitted on a CAPF 120, one copy is sent to the VFW National HQ, the other is sent up the chain to Group and Wing.

VFW National HQ:

VFW Programs
Veterans of Foreign Wars National Headquarters
406 West 34th Street
Kansas City, MO 64111

We sent in the request mid February. I followed up this morning and it was received, then faxed to the IL VFW HQ on 3/7.  IL VFW HQ sent the award packet to our Squadron CC on 3/21.

After talking to the IL representative she told me that we were the only ones in our Wing that submitted a request this year.  I just thought I'd share all this in case a lack of "how to" was causing a lack of participation in the program.

The number for IL VFW HQ is 217-529-6688, both National and State HQ's reps were very friendly and helpful. When I called I told them I was following up on the VFW Civil Air Patrol awards and was transferred to the correct person both times (not a painful process at all).

More info here:

https://www.vfw.org/-/media/vfwsite/files/my_vfw/training-and-support/community-service/youth-activities-chairmans-manual.pdf

If anyone needs an example of a justification for the Form 120 I'm happy to share ours for your reference.

 95 
 on: March 24, 2017, 10:30:49 AM 
Started by TheSkyHornet - Last post by Eclipse
IIRC, the regulations state that a school activity will be an acceptable absence.  Some cadets miss months due to sports or band, but then are active the rest of the time.  It is what it is..

They also state that cadets are both required to participate, to notify in the event of absence, and that
those same school activities do not absolve other promotion requirements, a major one of which is
"active participation".

CAPR 52-16, Page 14.
http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/R052_016_2011_02_BFAB729553AB1.pdf
"a. Expectations of Cadets. Cadets are required to participate actively in their local unit if they are
to progress in the Cadet Program. Excessive, unexcused absences may be cause for termination from CAP
(see CAPR 35-3, Membership Termination). Any school-related activity is considered an excused absence.
Cadets are responsible for informing their leaders in advance."


No participation, no progression. No progression & no participation equals "on the bubble".

Yet some parents and cadets think it's perfectly acceptable to show up once a quarter to promote, and
that they should be appointed to important staff roles, even at major activities, simply based on
their check-box participation, and mainly because they are resume-building.

They can't march in a straight line, have no idea what leadership (or even followership) is, and
everyone else picks up their slack.

You want to really break a kid?  Punch his ticket through a diamond and then put him into a position of
authority over other cadets who actually did the work. Cadets are not dumb, they understand these lessons
better then anyone because they are in the middle of it. BTDT, it's not pretty for anyone involved.

CAP opportunities come with expectations.

 96 
 on: March 24, 2017, 10:17:32 AM 
Started by TheSkyHornet - Last post by THRAWN
IIRC, the regulations state that a school activity will be an acceptable absence.  Some cadets miss months due to sports or band, but then are active the rest of the time.  It is what it is..

For many of the more motivated and dedicated cadets, CAP is not the only activity that they're involved in. Varsity sports, community theater, volunteer EMS/fire service are common among this group. Find ways to leverage their abilities at the same time allowing them to explore their interests and grow as productive citizens. Just because CAP didn't issue it, doesn't mean that it isn't a worthwhile endeavor. That being said, it is important that the cadets and their families communicate with the unit. I had an Earhart cadet that was just outstanding in every way. He was a qualified GTL, had a role in the wing level ES training activities and encampment, and was also a varsity athlete and lieutenant in his local EMS squad. We found ways to use him and encourage his "outside" activities. It made him a better cadet and took the uncertainty out of the mix when he had to miss meetings while he was competing or saving lives.

 97 
 on: March 24, 2017, 10:14:42 AM 
Started by TheSkyHornet - Last post by NIN
IIRC, the regulations state that a school activity will be an acceptable absence.  Some cadets miss months due to sports or band, but then are active the rest of the time.  It is what it is..

Sure, and when a cadet comes to us and says "Hey, yeah, I have soccer on Thursdays from now till June.." we go "great, come back when you're done. Good luck, score some goals." or "I have a play that I'm in at school, so I'm going to miss the next 6 Thursdays.." "Super, Shakespeare, keep your element leader in the loop."

 98 
 on: March 24, 2017, 10:03:35 AM 
Started by GaryVC - Last post by THRAWN
I find that not all of the awards and decorations show up. Not every Encampment Ribbon is listed, nor Community Service Ribbon, nor Red Service Ribbon, despite the forms being sent out and acknowledged that they were received. So either someone isn't entering them, or eServices (behind-the-scenes) doesn't accommodate them to be entered.

You really need to keep track of awards at the unit level. I equate it to a DD214. Good luck on everything being correct.

Those are service ribbons and NOT decorations. They are not tracked by eServices and must be tracked in the members personnel file.

Encampment?  I suppose if the Unit is so inclined, but it's not necessary as the encampment itself is tracked - people do love their paperwork, though.

I was highlighting that mostly to say that it is an activity/service award, not a decoration. Technically, there should be a 2A in the member's file for the encampment award, but I agree that it's mostly academic for that award.

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It's inexplicable as to why some jelly beans are in there and some aren't, to the detriment of the membership, the prolonged life of the Form 45
(which should already be long dead and buried), and the "not making things easier" realm of administering a unit.

If it can be awarded and worn, it should be in there.

I couldn't agree more. There should be a 2A form in eServices; just copy the base code from the 120 app and then change the actual award name, done.

I agree. Put all of the actions online. Paper is so 1994....

 99 
 on: March 24, 2017, 09:58:28 AM 
Started by TheSkyHornet - Last post by AirAux
IIRC, the regulations state that a school activity will be an acceptable absence.  Some cadets miss months due to sports or band, but then are active the rest of the time.  It is what it is..

 100 
 on: March 24, 2017, 09:35:31 AM 
Started by GaryVC - Last post by jeders
I find that not all of the awards and decorations show up. Not every Encampment Ribbon is listed, nor Community Service Ribbon, nor Red Service Ribbon, despite the forms being sent out and acknowledged that they were received. So either someone isn't entering them, or eServices (behind-the-scenes) doesn't accommodate them to be entered.

You really need to keep track of awards at the unit level. I equate it to a DD214. Good luck on everything being correct.

Those are service ribbons and NOT decorations. They are not tracked by eServices and must be tracked in the members personnel file.

Encampment?  I suppose if the Unit is so inclined, but it's not necessary as the encampment itself is tracked - people do love their paperwork, though.

I was highlighting that mostly to say that it is an activity/service award, not a decoration. Technically, there should be a 2A in the member's file for the encampment award, but I agree that it's mostly academic for that award.

Quote
It's inexplicable as to why some jelly beans are in there and some aren't, to the detriment of the membership, the prolonged life of the Form 45
(which should already be long dead and buried), and the "not making things easier" realm of administering a unit.

If it can be awarded and worn, it should be in there.

I couldn't agree more. There should be a 2A form in eServices; just copy the base code from the 120 app and then change the actual award name, done.

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