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 on: May 20, 2017, 01:03:55 AM 
Started by DJ Light Chop - Last post by Майор Хаткевич
Don't think I even heard about this.

 on: May 19, 2017, 11:30:28 PM 
Started by DJ Light Chop - Last post by DJ Light Chop
I remember seeing e-mail about Illinois planning to host an AE Conference this year.  But I haven't heard anything else about it.  Not listed on the wing website and I sent a couple of emails asking higher ups if its still happening but with no replies.

Anyone here know if that is still in the works?

 on: May 19, 2017, 07:40:24 PM 
Started by cfd358 - Last post by DocJekyll
PM Me your email, and I'll see what I can do to help.

 on: May 19, 2017, 06:23:59 PM 
Started by Mordecai - Last post by LGM30GMCC
I am not entirely sure that the dirty bomb or power plant or industrial accident scenarios are the only credible threats today. . . However, with the proliferation of nuclear capability matched to missile delivery capability, a case can be made that there are scenarios in which we would be dealing with the results of nuclear attack, either on the United States or as global fallout from a theater level nuclear conflict.  The old Civil Defense reporting networks no longer exist (and in many cases never really did exist - much of the CD program was about political mobilization rather than actual capacity building), and I doubt the capability of current systems to effectively monitor widespread fallout from even a small nuclear laydown. 

This is an area I feel comfortable addressing a little.

I don't think "small nuclear laydown" quite means what a lot of people think it means. A few scenarios and the challenges we face.

Single High-Altitude Burst. Depending on height of burst, location, and many other factors that we don't fully understand...the area of effect could range from several states, to the whole country, or perhaps a little smaller. Fall out would be minimal, if present, and really not the biggest concern at this point. Any advanced electronics not EMP hardened are likely toast at this point. So all our nice G1000 aircraft may well be fried. But so are fuel pumps, credit card readers, lap tops, ipads, cell phones, most modern cars...etc etc. CAP in the area of effect would likely be crippled, and CAP assets outside of the area (again, we're talking multi-state sized impact areas) may not be able to refuel in the heart of the affected area until forward staging of AVGAS or some way to get at the AVGAS that is in the impacted area. (Not impossible...but a massive logistics effort.)

1 to "a few" strategic weapons. We're talking in the hundreds of kiloton range here. If they were "ground bursts" (the kind that make the most fall-out" it depends again on what the targets were. Some adversaries might go for a few hardened targets, military targets to try to tip the scale in the nuclear conflict. Other adversaries might go for soft targets...like cities. Depending on the adversary we're talking about you're looking at anything from Hiroshima/Nagasaki levels of destruction in a modern city...to weapons around a hundred times more powerful. The scale of devastation depends on many factors (time of year, dryness of surrounding plant life, and on and on.) Once again CAP may or may not be able to really operate in the area of effect for days-to-weeks-to-months at which point RM by us isn't necessarily going to contribute much.

In a full-scale laydown....yeah...no.

Finally, with advances in weather modeling, blast modeling, and the like, we don't need as many aircraft or teams on the ground trying to find where the fall-out plumes are moving. There are ways to get a pretty good idea without the need to put civilians in light aircraft, who aren't equipped to handle the worst case, in the area of danger.

And...of course...there are already military assets dedicated to precisely this kind of thing. They have much better sniffers than we could hope to have, and the training and logistical capability to do it much better than us.


 on: May 19, 2017, 04:51:59 PM 
Started by Fernando V - Last post by Commo
FWIW, the following abbreviations from prior posts in this topic are acronyms:


All the rest are initialisms, except FAM, which doesn't fit the definition for either acronym or initialism.

I'll be darned.  I stand corrected.  TLA and FLA should be TLI and FLI respectively, and most of the acronyms I was thinking of (OSPF, BGP, IS-IS, MPLS-TE) are actually initialisms.


 on: May 19, 2017, 04:42:36 PM 
Started by whatevah - Last post by Commo
Welcome, and congratulations ...  Thank you for your service.

Thank you for all that you do, will do, or should do for the community, both in CAP or outside.

I received an LES and some VA benefits for my service (and is not why I served anyway).  Those in CAP, and others who volunteer in service to others, do so on their own dime and their families' risk.  There's a lot to be said for that... which I don't have the wordsmithing skills to express.


 on: May 19, 2017, 04:28:55 PM 
Started by whatevah - Last post by Commo
Thank you for the welcome, all

Hah! Two Posters one Commo the next Simplex, I find humor in that!


 on: May 19, 2017, 03:51:15 PM 
Started by jfkspotting - Last post by Spam

I had a Chief Petty Officer (E-7) in my Officer Candidate class. He was just as equal as everyone else in the class, except he had more expectations having prior experience. He wasn't a trainer. In fact, he was being taught by other E-7s, and even E-5s and E-6s. He didn't outrank them, but he's still looked at to be a leader within the realm of training.

The Navy term, "Bull Ensign" comes to mind... the top dog (usually prior enlisted service) O-1s who doesn't necessarily dominate through vast technical know how, personal magnetism or pushy behavior but by professional team forming and leadership behavior, starting with recognizing first that they are servant leaders taking care of bros and sisters on the team, to thus better accomplish a common mission.

My dad, who passed two weeks ago at the ripe old age of 92, enlisted in '42, drilled after the war as USNR as a senior NCO while getting his engineering degree on the GI bill, and was sent through Annapolis for a quick DCO/OCS style short commissioning course in the Korean call up. A full company of similar veteran guys were in his company, which must have been one of the most atypical training formations imaginable (they needed engineering JO's, badly then... he ended up later interviewing and passing with then-Captain (O-6) Hyman Rickover for the new nuclear Navy). He related a story about some young Academy upperclassmen middies who straight off, saw a chance to have some fun with older guys under their supervision, and started in on them with the hazing stuff. A LCDR observed, called them over, and was overheard to warn them to the effect that "Hey, those guys were killin' Japs while you were in 7th grade, and after you all leave here, they will be commissioned first - you'd better be prepared to call them "Sir". So, cut that crap out and focus on training, 'cause we're back in a shooting war here".

Smart CAP encampment staff will recognize the talent mine in their trainees and use it, not abuse it.

Smart trainees will hold their peace, sublimate their pride, and work to pull their flight together under the appointed staff - not to buck the system, but to prevail as a team.


 on: May 19, 2017, 03:33:26 PM 
Started by TheCookieCadet - Last post by Spam
Hi, Cookie.

What impresses, really, is demeanor bearing and behavior - not knowing facts that people can look up. The cadet who shows up to CAP activities mentally physically and morally prepared to pitch in hard and work as a team member, whether at menial tasks or as a leader, it one that impresses.

The military has a great unofficial saying: "cooperate to graduate". When that turns sour (via cheating) its bad, but at its best that's an expression of pulling together to work hard to serve the country. Respectfully submit that activities like NBB are far more COOPERATIVE than COMPETITIVE in nature. You'd really impress far more by showing up with that servant leader attitude, no matter what grade you are. Its not you vs. them, its all of you versus the challenge of the activity!

Go have fun!


 on: May 19, 2017, 03:31:31 PM 
Started by TheCookieCadet - Last post by jeders
For NBB 2016, around 600 people applied. Only about 200 are actually able to attend. Of the 200 or so that get slotted initially, as many as a quarter can be dropped from the activity by the staff because they didn't get the requirements completed in eServices. Moral of the story, get your GES, IS classes, First Aid, et al done when the staff says.

As for dominating, I assume you mean who has the highest participation. That varies between Kansas and Texas, though you can see actual numbers by looking at old copies of the NBB newsletter Behind the 8-Ball. Those can be found on the Public Affairs Section of the NBB website here.

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