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 on: Today at 03:30:04 PM 
Started by taylor914 - Last post by wacapgh
CAPR 62-1:

7.a.(5).
b. Safety vests are approved for wear over the outermost garment of AF-style uniform or corporate uniform and must be ANSI compliant as defined in paragraph 7d below.

c. Safety apparel is approved for wear as the outermost garment over the corporate uniform only and must meet ANSI Class 2 or 3 standards as noted on the ANSI classification tag which must be affixed to the garment. Examples of safety apparel are coats, jackets, rainwear and may include orange or lime green reflective pants in conjunction with upper-body wear.

d. ANSI and non-ANSI compliance standards are as follows:
 (1) ANSI compliant – All Safety Vests or Safety Apparel worn by CAP members must meet the American National Standards Institute, Inc (ANSI) Class 2 or Class 3 requirements. To ensure compliance with federal law, CAP members must comply with this anytime duties exposed them to public vehicular traffic such as directing traffic, investigating crashes, handling lane closures, obstructed roadways and disasters within the vehicle traffic lanes.

 (2) Non-ANSI compliant – Safety vests and safety apparel that does not meet ANSI class 2 or 3 visibility and reflectivity standards are not authorized. CAP’s policy on safety vests and apparel required that all members, by October 1, 2012, meet ANSI Class 2 or 3 visibility and reflectivity standards as stated in 7 (d) 1, above.

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 on: Today at 03:26:33 PM 
Started by taylor914 - Last post by Spaceman3750
They have the Wildland available in orange for $80.  From what I read it seemed like the same vest with a saw cover and a tool bar carrier, but I may be mistaken.  If that's the case, neither of those things are applicable with CAP. 

The big problem I see with the safety vests is that people then cover them with back packs  or other vests which defeats the purpose.  So I was thinking this would serve both purposes.

There are people who would tell you that safety vests should be worn over backpacks because of the "outermost layer" rule.

I'll take one ANSI II tent, please.

 13 
 on: Today at 03:24:52 PM 
Started by MSG Mac - Last post by Alaric
$ 190.00 - Event
$ 462.33 - Hotel
$ 380.00 - Airfare
$ 100.00 - Meals & Etc

$1,132.33 to attend a three day CAP conference? Too rich for my blood, especially with nothing about what will be happening at the conference being published.

It's hard to create value for these conferences. Anything being announced at the conference gets posted online. Training made available at the conference is also available at the region and wing levels. Obviously it's great to make new friends and meet old pals. For some, hearing something before the rest of the membership or shaking hands with important people holds value to them. It just seems to the majority of the membership, giving up vacation days or simply going unpaid is too much to ask for what the member gets in return for attending the conference.

Being in Texas will help. It's a large wing with plenty of locals who can easily attend. I just wonder how much longer non-profits can afford to host these big national conventions.

As long as the people that are required to go (Nat CC, Region CCs Wing CCs) are not reaching into their own pockets to pay for it, they will continue to have it and continue to perpetrate the myth that it is an opportunity for the rank and file members to get training and network.  If I were king for a day there would be no reimbursed travel for conferences, Fortune 500 companies have been using telecons and webinars for years, lets try to be good stewards of taxpayer money eh. 

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 on: Today at 03:24:10 PM 
Started by taylor914 - Last post by taylor914
They have the Wildland available in orange for $80.  From what I read it seemed like the same vest with a saw cover and a tool bar carrier, but I may be mistaken.  If that's the case, neither of those things are applicable with CAP. 

The big problem I see with the safety vests is that people then cover them with back packs  or other vests which defeats the purpose.  So I was thinking this would serve both purposes. 

 15 
 on: Today at 03:21:38 PM 
Started by Eclipse - Last post by Spaceman3750
I know at one time the word was an F12 sent in on 2 sheets of paper (vs. duplexed) would get bounced back, is that
still the case?

No. I send mine in on 2 sheets without issues.

Make sure they write "none" if they have no arrests/charges or it will generate additional emails.

 16 
 on: Today at 03:13:41 PM 
Started by Eclipse - Last post by Eclipse
I know at one time the word was an F12 sent in on 2 sheets of paper (vs. duplexed) would get bounced back, is that
still the case?

 17 
 on: Today at 03:05:54 PM 
Started by taylor914 - Last post by Spaceman3750
I've rocked the orange one for years, which I thought was discontinued a long time ago. Not ANSI 2, which hasn't been an issue for me but may be for you depending on the local personalities. I recommend getting the hydration carrier. I like mine but you may find that you can't fit all of what you want or need in there - I can't fit rain gear and I can't carry a tarp, for example. It also doesn't travel well, in that it tends to get tangled up on itself on the floors of vans or closets.

Edit: just noticed that this is the urban version. I have the "woodland" version, which is a little different, but substantially similar. Mine doesn't have zippered main pockets, it has flaps with snaps over the main pockets.

 18 
 on: Today at 03:00:57 PM 
Started by MSG Mac - Last post by dogden
I will be there but it is only a 3 hour drive from my house.  ;)

 19 
 on: Today at 02:58:24 PM 
Started by taylor914 - Last post by SarDragon
I see no mention of being ANSI 2 or ANSI 3 compliant for visibility, and it doesn't appear to be so, based on a casual look. The surface area seems a little short. I'm sure it's not ANSI 3 compliant, since there are no sleeves.

Remember, the primary purpose of the vest in this application is visibility, not as a gear tote.

 20 
 on: Today at 02:34:37 PM 
Started by vovbelle - Last post by Eclipse
For starters, adult staff are rarely required to have the entirety of the student packing list, with the
caveat that, as an adult, you have to take care of yourself, whether that means washing uniforms,
wearing an alternative, or "other".

Your best best is to contact the encampment staff, if they are actually desperate for staff, they should allow you to help in a
golf shirt, which is the standard or alternate uniform for many if not most encampment adult staff.

The blues you are already required to own (or whites) should be sufficient for an adult staffer.

With proper care and undergarments, a set of uniforms can go a long way before they start standing up
on their own.

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