Cessna Skymaster / CAP

Started by usafcap1, September 23, 2012, 07:57:00 AM

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usafcap1

Does CAP use Cessna skymasters? I read that 122nd Special Operations Squadron uses skymasters.
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spacecommand

#1
I do not think any of CAP's corporate aircraft are Skymasters. 

Not to mention that the Special Operations Squadron is a fictional unit.

SarDragon

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GroundHawg

Quote from: usafcap1 on September 23, 2012, 07:57:00 AM
Does CAP use Cessna skymasters? I read that 122nd Special Operations Squadron uses skymasters.

OPSEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Devil Doc

BTW, why does CAP keep calling it "Corporate" we dont work for an big company. We are an Military AUX.
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NIN

The 122nd is still out there, lads. Just sayin'

The 416th, is too, someplace.
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ol'fido

In the so-called "bad old days"(which were anything but), you could find just about anything on the flight line at a CAP mission base. I have seen Pipers, Beechcrafts(including an antique Staggerwing), all manner of Cessnas, Aeroncas, and Kachinas. This was the days when member owned aircraft dominated and you would see 10-20 aircraft out on the ramp with CAP seal on the tailfin. I don't specifically recall any 337s but I wouldn't discount it. At one mission we used the aforementioned Staggerwing, the Wing CC showed up in a Cessna Citation I or II, and I took an o-ride in a green and white Beech Baron that the Group 19 commander showed up in.

In those days corporate aircraft were not as prevalent as they are now. I doubt you would ever find record of one as a corporate aircraft for the simple reason that most CAP pilots were not multi-engine rated. Even then, you wouldn't buy an airplane that only a small fraction of your pilots could fly.
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BillB

My 337 was used on several missions in the 70's. Advantage, you could load 3 observers and 2 scanners onboard. Disadvaqnage, hi fuel use, but since USAF was paying was no problem.
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NIN

BITD (which was a Wednesday, I believe), a guy I knew who was a mission pilot showed up to a practice mission in his personally-owned T-28 Trojan.  Him and his GIBS hopped out, sauntered into mission base, and then flew Cessna 172 sorties for the rest of the day in a left-seat/right-seat config.  End of the day, fired up the radial and headed home.
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a2capt

Quote from: Devil Doc on September 23, 2012, 01:16:54 PMBTW, why does CAP keep calling it "Corporate" we dont work for an big company. We are an Military AUX.
Three months in CAP... I wish the OBC was the basis for Level I. Not III.

EMT-83

Quote from: a2capt on September 23, 2012, 03:24:23 PM
Quote from: Devil Doc on September 23, 2012, 01:16:54 PMBTW, why does CAP keep calling it "Corporate" we dont work for an big company. We are an Military AUX.
Three months in CAP... I wish the OBC was the basis for Level I. Not III.

This is where I generally jump in to complain about "on-line" Level 1.

spacecommand

Quote from: Devil Doc on September 23, 2012, 01:16:54 PM
BTW, why does CAP keep calling it "Corporate" we dont work for an big company. We are an Military AUX.

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/10C909.txt


ZigZag911

Quote from: BillB on September 23, 2012, 02:29:44 PM
My 337 was used on several missions in the 70's. Advantage, you could load 3 observers and 2 scanners onboard. Disadvaqnage, hi fuel use, but since USAF was paying was no problem.

Which is why it surprises me GA8 aren't used more in SAR, similar aircrew potential, lower fuel consumption, single engine.

Why limit them to ARCHER missions?

arajca

Because the few ARCHER systems still functioning are not permitted to be removed from the aircraft due to the high potential for damage and total lack of replacement parts. That's what you get for deploying a prototype system instead of a production system. The GA-8's without ARCHER systems are used for other missions, including SAR.

SarDragon

Quote from: Devil Doc on September 23, 2012, 01:16:54 PM
BTW, why does CAP keep calling it "Corporate" we dont work for an big company. We are an Military AUX.

CAP is a federally chartered corporation. The Boy Scouts have a similar charter.

Look at the material at spacecommand's link, and also here.
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sarmed1

Quote from: ol'fido on September 23, 2012, 02:22:46 PM
In the so-called "bad old days"(which were anything but), you could find just about anything on the flight line at a CAP mission base. I have seen Pipers, Beechcrafts(including an antique Staggerwing), all manner of Cessnas, Aeroncas, and Kachinas. This was the days when member owned aircraft dominated and you would see 10-20 aircraft out on the ramp with CAP seal on the tailfin. I don't specifically recall any 337s but I wouldn't discount it. At one mission we used the aforementioned Staggerwing, the Wing CC showed up in a Cessna Citation I or II, and I took an o-ride in a green and white Beech Baron that the Group 19 commander showed up in.

In those days corporate aircraft were not as prevalent as they are now. I doubt you would ever find record of one as a corporate aircraft for the simple reason that most CAP pilots were not multi-engine rated. Even then, you wouldn't buy an airplane that only a small fraction of your pilots could fly.

I was once told a BITD story about a squadron whom had a private owned P2V neptune that they kept in "CAP" colors that was used for searches.....
It sounds a little far feteched to me...but with BITD stories (especially before the interweb) anything is possible.

mk
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jimmydeanno

Quote from: Devil Doc on September 23, 2012, 01:16:54 PM
BTW, why does CAP keep calling it "Corporate" we dont work for an big company. We are an Military AUX.

It's because we ARE a big company.  We are a federally chartered 501(c)(3) non-profit corporation.  Our aircraft are owned by our corporation, making them corporate aircraft.
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Critical AOA

Plus it allows me to claim that I fly corporate aircraft.  It impresses the chicks.   8)
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NIN

Quote from: David Vandenbroeck on September 23, 2012, 11:39:45 PM
Plus it allows me to claim that I fly corporate aircraft.  It impresses the chicks.   8)

"Here's a picture of my spam can.."

Yeah, that don't last as long as you'd like it to. STS.
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