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Started by Walkman, July 17, 2012, 12:53:44 PM

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lordmonar

Quote from: Eclipse on July 17, 2012, 01:20:43 PM
Qualification evaluation is supposed to be individual demonstration, not mass testing.
Try again....
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

lordmonar

Quote from: Eclipse on July 17, 2012, 03:06:05 PM
You know, one of the best reasons for asking things on CAPTalk is to expose bad ideas - there aren't too many things "new under the sun", but plenty of mistakes people make over and over.

It's very disappointing when people take the "forget it" attitude when it comes to light that their concept for expediency (etc), might not be a good idea,
or more commonly, there's more to the conversation then "just doing it".

We have this exact issue locally and are struggling with the middle ground - we have some units with very proficient instructors who have created
classroom seminars and tests around the curriculum.  "Seemed like a good idea at the time."  However, as these things do, the evolution has become a "correct to 100%" situation, the proficient guys have no issues, but there appears to be far to many "last row" guys who are getting the same task credit and then are clueless when they get into a mission environment or are tasked individually.

There's a good reason why the task guides don't allow for this - those direct conversations expose weaknesses and gaps in understanding that
standardized testing of raw facts may not.

Expediency has its place (i.e. Dog task? "Stay away from the dogs."), but it has to be used properly, and making up "standardized" testing locally
for a national curriculum where members are expected to operate in the same manner no matter what wing they are in, may not be a good idea.
They take the "forget it attitude"....when people attack them or treat them as if they are stupid, crimial or incompetant.....which you tend to do a lot.

The dude asked if anyone knew where the test could be found.......because that is the way they do it in his wing.....and you attacked him and demanded answers.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

lordmonar

Quote from: Eclipse on July 17, 2012, 06:53:30 PM
The task guides are specific as to the questions and the process for evaluation.  Deviation is not authorized.

Real-world scenarios and contextual training is valuable, however there is no option to use it during qualification tasking.
Please cite! :)
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Eclipse

Quote from: lordmonar on July 17, 2012, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 17, 2012, 06:53:30 PM
The task guides are specific as to the questions and the process for evaluation.  Deviation is not authorized.

Real-world scenarios and contextual training is valuable, however there is no option to use it during qualification tasking.
Please cite! :)

Cite where it is allowed. 

The regs and process are very clear, especially for the initial qualification, which leaves little room for creativity or shortcuts.

"That Others May Zoom"

lordmonar

Quote from: Eclipse on July 17, 2012, 09:34:46 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on July 17, 2012, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on July 17, 2012, 06:53:30 PM
The task guides are specific as to the questions and the process for evaluation.  Deviation is not authorized.

Real-world scenarios and contextual training is valuable, however there is no option to use it during qualification tasking.
Please cite! :)

Cite where it is allowed. 

The regs and process are very clear, especially for the initial qualification, which leaves little room for creativity or shortcuts.
>:D  That which is not forbidden is allowed.   ;)
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Eclipse

Quote from: lordmonar on July 17, 2012, 09:42:08 PM
>:D  That which is not forbidden is allowed.   ;)

The FSM will get you for that!

"That Others May Zoom"

lordmonar

Quote from: Eclipse on July 17, 2012, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on July 17, 2012, 09:42:08 PM
>:D  That which is not forbidden is allowed.   ;)

The FSM will get you for that!
He is a forgiving diety  >:D
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP