COS Uniform

[AlphaSigOU]

I hate to be blunt, but isn't it practically the old USAF service dress just in a different shade and with slightly different tailoring? And by "the old" I mean the one our cadets are still authorized to wear, pre-McPeak one.

About the only major difference between what Gen Moseley wore and the old-style uniform is the style of the pocket flaps (the bottom ones are non-functional) and the Hap Arnold buttons. Real old school USAF service dress (old shade 1084) had lower patch pockets.

[JohnKachenmeister]

I think the scallop of the pocket flaps is slightly more dramatic on the new uniform, too.

But essentially, George is right.  This is the old 1950's-1960's uniform.   

[RiverAux]

Maybe its how he is standing, but it looks pretty rumpled and like it doesn't fit very well. 

[shorning]

Maybe its how he is standing, but it looks pretty rumpled and like it doesn't fit very well. 

Glass half empty, eh?  Looks like a custom fit in the PiR photo. 

[MIKE]

WRT the CoS pics: It must be a pain to put those individual stars on the epaulets as opposed to using the connected ones.

[shorning]

WRT the CoS pics: It must be a pain to put those individual stars on the epaulets as opposed to using the connected ones.

That's what his enlisted aide is for.  Seriously.

[PhoenixRisen]

WRT the CoS pics: It must be a pain to put those individual stars on the epaulets as opposed to using the connected ones.

May be a pain in the arse to do, but IMO, it looks [darn] sharp!  I've never been a fan of the connected stars.

[Tubacap]

^the other difference, which I appreciate as a conductor, are the gussets in the back allowing for more freedome of movement.  I don't conduct much in CAP, but every now and then we do use a band, and it is hard as heck to conduct in service dress.

[Smokey]

WRT the CoS pics: It must be a pain to put those individual stars on the epaulets as opposed to using the connected ones.

Well, I don't think he is changing the stars all that often on his service dress.   I wish I had such issues!!!

[mikeylikey]

Ya....I don't think I am that big of fan of the new uniform.  For starters, I don't like where the "US" cutouts are sitting.  I don't like the lapel, and the pockets don't look right. 

PLUS.....where is his belt??

[stratoflyer]

Definitely he should be wearing a belt according to the new uniform specs. Bu I suppose that as far as the belt is concerned, this uniform is a huge improvement over the current coat. This is definitely what CAP should be wearing as well, and will someone please get rid of the TPU coat and uniform?!?

BTW, the monster maroon worn by Kirk kicks major tail!

[Major Carrales]

Definitely he should be wearing a belt according to the new uniform specs. Bu I suppose that as far as the belt is concerned, this uniform is a huge improvement over the current coat. This is definitely what CAP should be wearing as well, and will someone please get rid of the TPU coat and uniform?!?

BTW, the monster maroon worn by Kirk kicks major tail!

The Maroon tunic of Star Trek:WOK was supposed to be, designed by Mr Robert Fletcher, the most "uniform" like costume ever worn in a feature film. A far cry from the PJ's of the original series (which really are my favorite) and the 70s-era Monstrosities of the First Star Trek Feature film.

[Smithsonia]

Excuse me George... are you speaking of the Air Force uniforms worn by Larry Hagman? Or that spicy one worn by Jeannie? If it's Jeannie's outfit... you got 39-1 problems!
With regards; ED OBRIEN

[ColonelJack]

and will someone please get rid of the TPU coat and uniform?!?

What would you have the people who don't meet AF guidelines wear, then?  I seriously doubt that the Corporate Service Uuniform (its proper name) is going anywhere any time soon, since many members have invested major coin in one and even Gen. Courter wears hers quite often.  It's not a bad uniform at all!

BTW, the monster maroon worn by Kirk kicks major tail!

Here we agree ... the best ST uniform ever!

Jack

[ColonelJack]

Excuse me George... are you speaking of the Air Force uniforms worn by Larry Hagman? Or that spicy one worn by Jeannie? If it's Jeannie's outfit... you got 39-1 problems!
With regards; ED OBRIEN

Unless George looks a LOT like Barbara Eden, 39-1 problems are the LEAST of his worries in Jeannie's spicy outfit!

Jack

[Cecil DP]

WRT the CoS pics: It must be a pain to put those individual stars on the epaulets as opposed to using the connected ones.

He'll never have to do it again!

[Flying Pig]

Besides.....most Generals have aides who do that stuff for them.

What's interesting is that we are coming to an end of an era.  VERY rarely do you see a General or E-9 anymore with any medals related to Vietnam.  I remember when I was in, all of the higher ups still wore Vietnam related ribbons.

[Hawk200]

Definitely he should be wearing a belt according to the new uniform specs.

It's a test uniform, there are no "specs" on it. Besides, he's a four star general, they can (and do) modify uniforms for themselves.

[AlphaSigOU]

Besides.....most Generals have aides who do that stuff for them.

What's interesting is that we are coming to an end of an era.  VERY rarely do you see a General or E-9 anymore with any medals related to Vietnam.  I remember when I was in, all of the higher ups still wore Vietnam related ribbons.

Most of the Vietnam-era vets hit their 30-year retirement ceiling around 2005; the few remaining are generals and chief master sergeants/master chiefs/master gunnys/command sergeant majors allowed to serve over 30 years.

If - theoretically - the Iraq/Afghanistan war ended in 2009/10, the last of those who served during that time will be hitting top retirement around 2021-2030 time frame. Gulf War I vets start hitting minimum retirement age in 2010.

[JohnKachenmeister]

^ Time marches on.  I can't stay in step.