New USAF V-Neck pullover sweater

[afgeo4]

I was just at the McGuire/Ft. Dix/Lakehurst base MCSS and noticed that they stock the new USAF pullover (v-neck) in all sizes. This new sweater is a softer wool in a touch lighter shade, but it has a built in patch on the left breast for the flight patch to go on it (that's how it's now worn in USAF).

The question: The old one is authorized by name for us to wear. Is the new one? It's still the USAF pullover sweater. Do we wear the flight patch if we are authorized?

[JC004]

That's a good one and that is one for Ms. Parker...

[Hawk200]

There's a new sweater? Anyone got some links? Would like to see this thing.

[Eclipse]

Were it just the material I would say few would even notice, but since the garment has a different configuration and
there's no accounting for the leather patch, no.

[♠SARKID♠]

I was just at the McGuire/Ft. Dix/Lakehurst base MCSS and noticed that they stock the new USAF pullover (v-neck) in all sizes. This new sweater is a softer wool in a touch lighter shade, but it has a built in patch on the left breast for the flight patch to go on it (that's how it's now worn in USAF).

The question: The old one is authorized by name for us to wear. Is the new one? It's still the USAF pullover sweater. Do we wear the flight patch if we are authorized?

Was the patch the only configuration difference or was there something else?  A lot of the pieces that are attached to those sweaters are just sewn on and can be removed with some careful de-stitching.  I would assume (having not seen this new version) that the same would apply here and you may be able to deconstruct it to look like a (now) old-style pullover.

[Slim]

I was just at the McGuire/Ft. Dix/Lakehurst base MCSS and noticed that they stock the new USAF pullover (v-neck) in all sizes. This new sweater is a softer wool in a touch lighter shade, but it has a built in patch on the left breast for the flight patch to go on it (that's how it's now worn in USAF).

The question: The old one is authorized by name for us to wear. Is the new one? It's still the USAF pullover sweater. Do we wear the flight patch if we are authorized?

Was the patch the only configuration difference or was there something else?  A lot of the pieces that are attached to those sweaters are just sewn on and can be removed with some careful de-stitching.  I would assume (having not seen this new version) that the same would apply here and you may be able to deconstruct it to look like a (now) old-style pullover.

From experience dealing with destitching wool sweaters, once something is sewn on there, plan on it staying there.

I have a couple of different types of sweaters like this for work, and they both have crooked patches on them (not bad, but I know they're off and it drives me nuts).  When I complained to the seamstress, she said there was nothing they could do about it as trying to cut the stitches would (not could-would) damage it.  And they wouldn't replace the sweater because their policy is that they don't guarantee sewing/tailoring.

[PHall]

You know, looking at the AAFES web page, I do not see ANY pullover sweaters at all.

There are blue and white cardigan sweaters and neither on those have the patch you talk about.

You sure this wasn't a Coast Guard uniform item?

[AlphaSigOU]

I saw 'em at the Nellis AFB MCSS while at PCRSC. Expected availability sometime this month. They were almost out of every size there. The cardigan is unchanged but the wooly pully was changed to the new design.

[afgeo4]

Definitely a USAF item. It's new. They've been working on it for a couple of years now. I guess the fact that it's April is keeping them still in stock, at least at the McGuire/Dix/Lakehurst MCSS. I don't have pictures of it and until I find out that it's authorized, I won't because I won't buy it.

The name patch makes sense since the nameplate was required for wear with the old pullover sweater. It just makes it easier to wear this way I think.

Also, I wish they'd authorize the ABU already. McGuire has nothing left for BDU's and EVERYTHING for ABU's.

[Eclipse]

Interesting - can't find a mention of it or photo anywhere - newest mention of the word sweater on af.mil is from about 2006.

[JC004]

I also looked in AAFES online and had someone look in the AF portal...didn't find anything.   

[afgeo4]

Call the McGuire AFB MCSS at (609) 723-2307 for confirmation of availability.

[PHall]

Call the McGuire AFB MCSS at (609) 723-2307 for confirmation of availability.

Why would a MCSS at one base have them while HQ AAFES doesn't even know about them?

Something's not right here.

[jb512]

I didn't think much of it till now but I've seen them at the clothing sales store here at Lackland too.  It's the same old v-neck but with velcro on the left side of the chest.

[Hawk200]

Call the McGuire AFB MCSS at (609) 723-2307 for confirmation of availability.

Why would a MCSS at one base have them while HQ AAFES doesn't even know about them?

Something's not right here.

Maybe it's from Vanguard. 

[afgeo4]

I didn't think much of it till now but I've seen them at the clothing sales store here at Lackland too.  It's the same old v-neck but with velcro on the left side of the chest.

Nah, it ain't the same. The fabric is definitely softer and the ribbing (especially around the neck) is wider.

[jb512]

I didn't think much of it till now but I've seen them at the clothing sales store here at Lackland too.  It's the same old v-neck but with velcro on the left side of the chest.

Nah, it ain't the same. The fabric is definitely softer and the ribbing (especially around the neck) is wider.

My goodness.

No one has posted any nametag criteria for it yet?  I'm surprised.

[AlphaSigOU]

Unless there's an ALCON msg on the AF portal regarding wear of the new woolly pully we don't know about.

[O-Rex]

Unless there's an ALCON msg on the AF portal regarding wear of the new woolly pully we don't know about.

The Navy has been using blue wolly-pullies with the leather name tag for years, I think it's a "surface warfare" distinctive-thing.

Perhaps they were sent to USAF MCSS's in error?

[Spike]

Unless there's an ALCON msg on the AF portal regarding wear of the new woolly pully we don't know about.

Nope!