CAP ID's

[Al Sayre]

As I remember, they came like a blue card-stock post card and were perforated so you could cut off just the card portion.  I don't have mine any more, but I do have my Restricted Radio Operators Permit dated 1974.  (insert "old guy smilie" here)

[SarDragon]

As I remember, they came like a blue card-stock post card and were perforated so you could cut off just the card portion.  I don't have mine any more, but I do have my Restricted Radio Operators Permit dated 1974.  (insert "old guy smilie" here)

Mine's dated 9-4-70.

[Matt]

You don't get it Matt... CAPR 39-2 dated 16 June 2004 flat out says that the cards may only be issued to senior members.  CAPF 19A is dated May 81.  Cadets can request CAPF 19s by submitting a CAPF 19A sure... but any issuing officer at wing with half a brain knows that CAPR 39-2 as published restricts issue to seniors and will round file any CAPF 19A submitted for a cadet.  Why waste the paper/postage?

Nope, I gathered that, whichever is newer is the trump, Admin-101.

However, the second question didn't get answered.  Why does it say members, and not Senior Members.

1) Members may request identification cards by completing CAPF 19A, Request for CAP Photo Identification Card, attaching a 1" x 1" photograph and forwarding to their region or wing headquarters as appropriate.

And, there is nothing governing the cadet portion under the photo ID clause.  There is only direction of SMs, and unless I missed a paragraph, it's not an exclusionary reg.

[SarDragon]

OK, the entire text of that section is quoted below. Any highlighting is mine.

b. In addition, CAPF 19, CAP Photo Identification Card, may be issued to senior members on an optional basis by region and wing commanders. (National Headquarters may issue photo identification cards to members assigned to units in the 99000 series.) The photo identification card is not valid unless accompanied by a current membership card.
1) Members may request identification cards by completing CAPF 19A, Request for CAP Photo Identification Card, attaching a 1" x 1" photograph and forwarding to their region or wing headquarters as appropriate.
2) Members assigned to units in the 99000 series may request photo identification cards directly from NHQ CAP/LMM.

Having established in para b. that cards are to be issued to senior members, it becomes redundant to restate "senior members" in paras 1) and 2).

[Matt]

OK, the entire text of that section is quoted below. Any highlighting is mine.

b. In addition, CAPF 19, CAP Photo Identification Card, may be issued to senior members on an optional basis by region and wing commanders. (National Headquarters may issue photo identification cards to members assigned to units in the 99000 series.) The photo identification card is not valid unless accompanied by a current membership card.
1) Members may request identification cards by completing CAPF 19A, Request for CAP Photo Identification Card, attaching a 1" x 1" photograph and forwarding to their region or wing headquarters as appropriate.
2) Members assigned to units in the 99000 series may request photo identification cards directly from NHQ CAP/LMM.

Having established in para b. that cards are to be issued to senior members, it becomes redundant to restate "senior members" in paras 1) and 2).

Ok, so then where does it mention anything to govern cadets?  The reg is not exclusionary, so in theory they could be.

[arajca]

OK, the entire text of that section is quoted below. Any highlighting is mine.

b. In addition, CAPF 19, CAP Photo Identification Card, may be issued to senior members on an optional basis by region and wing commanders. (National Headquarters may issue photo identification cards to members assigned to units in the 99000 series.) The photo identification card is not valid unless accompanied by a current membership card.
1) Members may request identification cards by completing CAPF 19A, Request for CAP Photo Identification Card, attaching a 1" x 1" photograph and forwarding to their region or wing headquarters as appropriate.
2) Members assigned to units in the 99000 series may request photo identification cards directly from NHQ CAP/LMM.

Having established in para b. that cards are to be issued to senior members, it becomes redundant to restate "senior members" in paras 1) and 2).

Ok, so then where does it mention anything to govern cadets?  The reg is not exclusionary, so in theory they could be.

Since it SPECIFIES SENIOR MEMBERS, that means it is only for SENIOR MEMBERS. It doesn't have to say "Not for cadets". That is a given since it says the card is for senior members. read the emphasised portion.