senior member honor guard?

JayT · January 25, 2009, 03:34:16 AM

Quote from: Short Field on January 25, 2009, 03:00:33 AM
Must really grip some folks to see the old men in the VFW color guard.....

http://www.westfargovfw.com/colorgaurd/index.html

Apples to oranges.

Short Field · January 25, 2009, 04:43:13 AM

No, it is not.

If the VFW can field a honor guard with "mature" members, so can CAP. There are enough people in my squadron who meet the same requirements and background (a veteran of a foreign war) as the men in the VFW color guard. So why can't they do it in CAP? Too old, fat, and fuzzy for some people here?

JayT · January 25, 2009, 04:48:48 AM

Quote from: Short Field on January 25, 2009, 04:43:13 AM
No, it is not.

If the VFW can field a honor guard with "mature" members, so can CAP. There are enough people in my squadron who meet the same requirements and background (a veteran of a foreign war) as the men in the VFW color guard. So why can't they do it in CAP? Too old, fat, and fuzzy for some people here?

If they can do it, so be it.

But is it really part of the Senior program?

Short Field · January 25, 2009, 05:41:51 AM

I am not sure I know of anything that is not part of the senior program.

Promoting the Civil Air Patrol is definitely part of the senior program. Supporting CAP ceremonies would also fall under the senior program. We had a group of seniors that were going to march in a local parade and the only reason the Wing squashed the ideal was that they wanted to march in their flight suits and they lost interest when told to be in a non-utility uniform.

SM-MADDOG · January 25, 2009, 09:38:34 AM

American Legion also has one dont they ? I know they and the VFW are with us during the memorial day parade and services.

JayT · January 25, 2009, 12:30:24 PM

Quote from: Short Field on January 25, 2009, 05:41:51 AM
I am not sure I know of anything that is not part of the senior program. Promoting the Civil Air Patrol is definitely part of the senior program. Supporting CAP ceremonies would also fall under the senior program. We had a group of seniors that were going to march in a local parade and the only reason the Wing squashed the ideal was that they wanted to march in their flight suits and they lost interest when told to be in a non-utility uniform.

Good, I'm glad your Wing had the guts to make that order.

AlphaSigOU · January 25, 2009, 03:24:20 PM

Marching in bags? YGBFSM!!!!

O-Rex · January 26, 2009, 01:33:15 PM

Quote from: tjaxe on January 23, 2009, 09:11:39 PM
Quote from: O-Rex on January 23, 2009, 01:53:01 PM
tjaxe et al.- I'm not trying to blow smoke up your '4th point of contact,' but I don't think our CAPTALK regulars are representative of the folks we see "in the field" i.e., If you are passionate enough about what you do to blog here, chances are there are some mirror-finish boots in the closet, and an appointment for a high & tight pending with your barber. Yes, you guys are a sharp bunch, BUT all it takes is one goofball rag-bag to undo it all, and somehow they always manage to get in the mix, despite our collective best efforts. I can't count how many times we had things by-the-numbers, only to find our resident "Joey bag-o-donuts" waddling in with some gross uni-violation or in the wrong uniform altogether. Or worse yet, he came in and started rubbing elbows with the guests and VIP's before we even realized he was there.

I definitely see your point in here and I'm not arguing that at all. I also like the idea of no rank (maybe those involved could shed theirs??). In any case. you're right -- there always seems to be some ding-dong around messing it up. <wishful thinking>But wouldn't it be cool if that weren't the case? </wishful thinking>

BTW -- I'd look pretty funny with a "high and tight" being of the "other" gender but I do polish my boots for hours!

Um.....sorry about that, let me rephrase " high and tight or hair-not falling below the collar."

Unless of course you are into the Sinead O'Connor or Sigourney Weaver from Alien III look

Actually, I remember watching Catherine Bell as Mac on JAG, and in the final seasons, she started to wear her hair long (but put up IAW regs.) She was probably doing other work concurrent with her appearances on JAG. Funny, I like long hair on women, but for Mil females, the Sarah McKenzie/Casey Seagar (from Officer and a Gentleman, "Hey see-gar!!") is actually appealing-kind of a short & sassy look. (I know I'm delving into the personal here-borderline TMI, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.)

AlphaSigOU/Short Field: Marching in bags? GADZOOKS!!! I think I just threw up in my mouth a little..... It's things like that which perpetuate the stereotype.

Eclipse: I once had body-escort detail as a young NCO in the 80's, I accompanied the casket, made sure that it was loaded/unloaded from the airliner cargo hold properly (always head-side down on angled ramps,) signed a gazillion documents, then handed custody off to the Family Assistance Officer (a Major) and funeral director, then quietly made myself scarce, as instructed. There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes. It was a very solemn thing to be responsible to ensure that a fallen comerade makes it home, but it's not something you really want to do more than once.....