New 39-1

[James Shaw]

Speaking of 39-1. New National Staff Badge from Vanguard arrived in mail today. Now just waiting for 39-1 publication.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I don't know, there were quite a few good ones, aside from the good Doctor....Fawlty Towers, As Time Goes By (with the lovely Dame Judith Dench...), Ballykissangel, Absolutely Fabulous (even after seeing the entire series a few times, it's still a riot), Are You Being Served, and then of course all of the shows the Americans "adapted" (read "stole the idea for"): The Office (I nearly had an asthma attack from laughing at the BBC version...and I don't have asthma), the Gordon Ramsay catalog, Shameless....the list goes on....and I apparently watch too much television....

And fezzes are cool.

And so are bow ties.

You completely left out 'Keeping Up Appearances.'

BUCKET RESIDENCE......That's Bouquet

I worked at a PBS station.  I could watch "KUA" until the sun burns out.

Poor Dickie...

[Eclipse]

Speaking of 39-1. New National Staff Badge from Vanguard arrived in mail today. Now just waiting for 39-1 publication.

Wow - talk about the cart before the horse.

Nothing publicly approved, but the vendor is already making new insignia.

So how does one go about ordering something which is neither publicly available, nor approved for wear?

[Panache]

So how does one go about ordering something which is neither publicly available, nor approved for wear?

That's a good question.  It's not listed on V's website, that's for sure.

About six weeks ago, I sent them an email asking if I could get a CAPCom patch without the hook for my flight suit.  I got a reply that since that was in the draft 39-1, and it wasn't published yet, they weren't authorized to do so.

[a2capt]

Authorization depends on who's asking. Ironic that they seem concerned, yet they go willy-nilly and make other stuff. Whatever.

[NIN]

Wow - talk about the cart before the horse.

Nothing publicly approved, but the vendor is already making new insignia.

So how does one go about ordering something which is neither publicly available, nor approved for wear?

To be fair to the Big V, they have to start making insignia at some point. 

Apparently the National Staff badge was designed & approved some time ago, and its implementation, unlike that of, say, ABUs, was never really in question.  Its not like "hey, the National Staff Badge is in the January draft, but magically disappeared from the March draft.  Hey, Tommy, call the guys up in Rhode Island and have 'em quit stamping those 2000 badges..."

Someone said to Vanguard at some point "OK, this is definitely going to be a thing once all the admin sign offs are done. Start making them so we have them."

Or would you rather they said "Oh, no, we can't make and sell this until it is duly authorized and published"?

Because then, everybody would complain mightily that Vanguard sucks eggs cuz they're not ready with all the new changes the day the reg hits the street. And I'm pretty sure that it takes more than say 30 days to go from "here's a drawing of our badge" to "here are badges for sale."

As for ordering, well, I bet an email went around to the National Staff saying something to the effect of "OK, get 'em while they're hot. SKU OMG-2-KOOL, $18.50.  The boss wants everybody on staff wearing them at National Board, so get going."

[James Shaw]

Speaking of 39-1. New National Staff Badge from Vanguard arrived in mail today. Now just waiting for 39-1 publication.

Wow - talk about the cart before the horse.

Nothing publicly approved, but the vendor is already making new insignia.

So how does one go about ordering something which is neither publicly available, nor approved for wear?

The process for this was actually started in 2009. It has gone under several revisions and was approved several years ago. It had been in limbo due to the change in Governance and other Committee work.

This is a controlled item as directed by NHQ and you have to call them to order. You have to provide proof of National Staff status.

There was a reference to it in the draft version of 39-1.

[Panache]

This is a controlled item as directed by NHQ and you have to call them to order. You have to provide proof of National Staff status.

There was a reference to it in the draft version of 39-1.

That being said, it is an awfully spiffy insignia.

[Brit_in_CAP]

I don't know, there were quite a few good ones, aside from the good Doctor....Fawlty Towers, As Time Goes By (with the lovely Dame Judith Dench...), Ballykissangel, Absolutely Fabulous (even after seeing the entire series a few times, it's still a riot), Are You Being Served, and then of course all of the shows the Americans "adapted" (read "stole the idea for"): The Office (I nearly had an asthma attack from laughing at the BBC version...and I don't have asthma), the Gordon Ramsay catalog, Shameless....the list goes on....and I apparently watch too much television....

And fezzes are cool.

And so are bow ties.

You completely left out 'Keeping Up Appearances.'

BUCKET RESIDENCE......That's Bouquet

I worked at a PBS station.  I could watch "KUA" until the sun burns out.

Poor Dickie...

Yeah...my children still like watching that even after we moved to the USA.  As children, they would look sideways at me and them mention how much Hyacinth reminded them of Grandma...

[Garibaldi]

I don't know, there were quite a few good ones, aside from the good Doctor....Fawlty Towers, As Time Goes By (with the lovely Dame Judith Dench...), Ballykissangel, Absolutely Fabulous (even after seeing the entire series a few times, it's still a riot), Are You Being Served, and then of course all of the shows the Americans "adapted" (read "stole the idea for"): The Office (I nearly had an asthma attack from laughing at the BBC version...and I don't have asthma), the Gordon Ramsay catalog, Shameless....the list goes on....and I apparently watch too much television....

And fezzes are cool.

And so are bow ties.

You completely left out 'Keeping Up Appearances.'

BUCKET RESIDENCE......That's Bouquet

I worked at a PBS station.  I could watch "KUA" until the sun burns out.

Poor Dickie...

Yeah...my children still like watching that even after we moved to the USA.  As children, they would look sideways at me and them mention how much Hyacinth reminded them of Grandma...

Notify the press. Yet another uniform topic suffered thread drift!

Also, Rik Mayall, of The Young Ones fame and former husband of Jennifer Saunders (French and Saunders, AbFab) died this week.

[Checotah]

I discovered that my interpretation of the current polo shirt/pants combination specification was incorrect.  I thought the current specification, when calling for "commercial slacks/trousers", meant dress slacks.  Obviously, in reading some of the posts hereon it does not; many are apparently wearing utility pants, such as tacticals, which, of course, turns the combination into more of a work uniform than I envisioned.  When reading the proposed 39-1 revision, it actually clarifies this use by grouping it in the "Corporate-style Field Uniform" section and calling out "Tactical or 'Chinos' style" as options.  The seemingly disconnect then comes when "plain black dress shoe, dress boot.." are specified (along with "combat boots").  The current regs simply call for "Black shoes..." (not "black dress shoes"). 

I realize this new version is draft only at this point, and who knows what it will eventually specify when/if it is approved, but it just seems like there are opposing directions being taken for the pants and the footear. 

[NorCal21]

I have it on good authority that the new 39-1 will be released the 11th of June, 201

Interesting omission at the end there.

Well, hindsight is 20/20 but I would venture to say that whoever your "good authority" is was wrong. Still says 12 Mar 12.

[Spaceman3750]

But they got cool hats.  I want a cool hat.

Fezzes are cool.

...as are bow ties...

Probably one of only a half dozen British TV shows that made it in the US

I don't know, there were quite a few good ones, aside from the good Doctor....Fawlty Towers, As Time Goes By (with the lovely Dame Judith Dench...), Ballykissangel, Absolutely Fabulous (even after seeing the entire series a few times, it's still a riot), Are You Being Served, and then of course all of the shows the Americans "adapted" (read "stole the idea for"): The Office (I nearly had an asthma attack from laughing at the BBC version...and I don't have asthma), the Gordon Ramsay catalog, Shameless....the list goes on....and I apparently watch too much television....

And fezzes are cool.

And so are bow ties.

Don't forget Benny Hill, Torchwood, Orphan Black and dare I say it... Downton Abbey.

(Sorry I think Michelle Dockery is so hot!)

And Fezzes are cool.

And so are bow ties.

I've watched the entire run of MI6/Spooks at least once on Netflix. Impressive that Peter Firth lasted the entire run given the number of actors they went through.

[Spaceman3750]

But they got cool hats.  I want a cool hat.

Fezzes are cool.

...as are bow ties...

Probably one of only a half dozen British TV shows that made it in the US

I don't know, there were quite a few good ones, aside from the good Doctor....Fawlty Towers, As Time Goes By (with the lovely Dame Judith Dench...), Ballykissangel, Absolutely Fabulous (even after seeing the entire series a few times, it's still a riot), Are You Being Served, and then of course all of the shows the Americans "adapted" (read "stole the idea for"): The Office (I nearly had an asthma attack from laughing at the BBC version...and I don't have asthma), the Gordon Ramsay catalog, Shameless....the list goes on....and I apparently watch too much television....

And fezzes are cool.

And so are bow ties.

Don't forget Benny Hill, Torchwood, Orphan Black and dare I say it... Downton Abbey.

(Sorry I think Michelle Dockery is so hot!)

And Fezzes are cool.

And so are bow ties.

I've watched the entire run of MI6/Spooks at least once on Netflix. Impressive that Peter Firth lasted the entire run given the number of actors they went through.

Correction: MI-5 - Tapatalk won't let me edit.

[Devil Doc]

How about Top Gear or Doctor Who?

[JeffDG]

Speaking of 39-1. New National Staff Badge from Vanguard arrived in mail today. Now just waiting for 39-1 publication.

Wow - talk about the cart before the horse.

Nothing publicly approved, but the vendor is already making new insignia.

So how does one go about ordering something which is neither publicly available, nor approved for wear?

Rules are for the little people.

The Echelons-Above-Reality needn't worry themselves about "publicly available"