Being Out Of Uniform at a Squadron Meeting

[Stonewall]

>Be me
>Wearing Ceremonial Honor Guard Blues
>Performing at 1730
>Squadron meeting at 18

See the dilemma?


Most times I can take care of it. Just trying to see what the right course of action is if I can't. I've been given presentations two hours before start time.

Then the solution is to prioritize and/or communicate.

If the event prior to your CAP meeting takes priority, then perhaps it's a good night to miss CAP.

If you can still make the CAP meeting in a reasonable time frame, i.e. without missing a majority of the meeting and/or interupting the meeting itself with your tardiness, then bring your CAP uniform and attend the meeting.  However, make it known to your cadet commander or DCC  that you'll be there, but you'll be late due to a prior obligation.

Either way, communicate your intentions/plans.

Problem solved.  Problem staying solved.

[Eclipse]

>Wearing Ceremonial Honor Guard Blues

So which is it now?  Blues or a field uniform? 
Strange how the variables change as your threads progress.

If the event prior to your CAP meeting takes priority, then perhaps it's a good night to miss CAP.

This.

Life is choice.  You can't do everything.

As to the original question, ask the other organizations how they would feel if you left early to be at a CAP meeting, or if you could change and
stand in formation in a CAP uniform.

You knew the answer to this question before you asked.

[Devil Doc]

Cermonial Blues? Every Week? Why?

Im sorry, i did 5 years of JROTC (Dont Ask) 2 years NAVY and 3 Years Army. You ONLY were ceremonial blue on weekends. Unless your meeting is on a weekend i dont see how this is an issue. I understand you very enthusiastic, but you knew when coming into CAP that "Times" were going to clash with each other. As stated before, you cannot do everything, So Prioritize, is AFJROTC event more important than a CAP event? Is a Sea Cadet Event more important than a CAP Event? Vice Versa. I suggest taking a Time Managment Course. Just wait till you get a job, you will not have time for hardly any of that stuff. Go to work not in Uniform I dare ya, you will not have a job anymore.  You starting to remind me of RadioMan, a member that got banned on this Forum.

[Bobble]

All right, thanks for the advice, guys. By the way, not trying to find excuses or anything, I was wondering if in CAP, punctuality is more important than what I'm wearing.


Edited: for grammatical awesome

At this point, I'm wondering why the OP has to ask this question on this Board, especially at the C/Captain level of R2A2.  Surely there are Senior Members in positions of command (CC, DCC, etc., ...) at the OP's squadron who could easily provide a solution to his dilemma in 15 words or less, and probably should have done so a long time ago.  Granted, it's fun and all picking apart the query presented here, but ultimately, doesn't the decision (punctuality vs. being in the correct uniform) rest with the Squadron Commander?

Or perhaps the point is simply to impress us all with such a HSLD schedule of activities.

[Cool Mace]

At this point, I'm wondering why the OP has to ask this question on this Board, especially at the C/Captain level of R2A2.

He's not a C/Capt. That's just his sig. line.

[Texas Raiders]

I sure do hope the young cadet airman has received the message and understood it.  This is not the first time that he has been given the same answer multiple times.   

>Wearing Ceremonial Honor Guard Blues

So which is it now?  Blues or a field uniform? 
Strange how the variables change as your threads progress.

I was thinking the very same thought.   

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

OH boy, boot camp is going to be fun for you. They give you 5 minutes if your lucky to change, and it better be inspection ready when you do. Good Luck. Practice now while you can.

+1.

I still remember the mad morning stampede to get your three S's done...and it was absolutely no fun if the MTI's had to offer "encouragement."

Cadet, as I see it, you have several problems.

You are overextended, belonging to too many things.  You are young.  Don't waste your youth trying to do it all, see it all, be it all at once.  When you get older you'll wonder "where did it all go?"  BTDT, as have many on CT.  I could belong to both CAP and CGAUX (as some here do, and make it work for them), but I simply wouldn't be able to do both without overextending myself.

You need to learn time management skills.  Some of that can be taught, but other things you just have to learn through trial and error.  If you go into the military, you'll learn that on your first day at BMT.  I think one of the first orders from the MTI was "Get a bunk and wall locker...do it NOW!"

Punctuality is important in CAP, but there are times when "stuff happens" and you can't be there on the mark.  It is then your responsibility to inform through your chain that you will be late (or absent).  I'm a Captain with almost 20 years in CAP and if I'm going to be late/not there, I still shoot my superiors an e-mail/text/phone call.  They don't make me do it; it's a courtesy.

WRT uniforms...I worked a job with a long commute where I did not have time to go back home, change into my uniform and drive back the way I came to my CAP meeting site.  I used to take my uniform, change in the washroom once I was off the clock and head on to the meeting.  Minimal stress that way.  Once I forgot my flight cap, and I notified my CC as soon as I got there and accompanied the statement with "no excuses, Sir."  There was no problem, and I didn't do it again.

[NCRblues]

This kid (?) is one of the best trolls I have seen in a long time. What cadet is up at 3 something am and posting about being in the wrong uniform? His posts turn into multiple page discussions with the same conclusion every time... Troll, and a good one at that.

[abdsp51]

The OP is not currently a member of a unit and is going through the process of joining.  This is per reliable sources in NV Wg.

[Eclipse]

The OP is not currently a member of a unit and is going through the process of joining.  This is per reliable sources in NV Wg.

Well, that certainly paints a corner of the picture.

[Pylon]

Troll indeed.  The OP has his answer 10 times over.  We're just fueling our own heartburn now.

[a2capt]

Gee.. imagine that. All that "dying a little inside", fake? Maybe whoever the unit is, should see these threads.. ;-)

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

We're just fueling our own heartburn now.

[lordmonar]

That's what I was saying. In CAP, it's okay if I miss the first bit of a meeting to change, right?

No, it's not.

What you need to do is plan your time better and be prepared accordingly.

>Be me
>Wearing Ceremonial Honor Guard Blues
>Performing at 1730
>Squadron meeting at 18

See the dilemma?


Most times I can take care of it. Just trying to see what the right course of action is if I can't. I've been given presentations two hours before start time.

Be a man!  A) Tell your squadron commander of the situation.   You are NOT tardy if you have prio cooridination.  B)  Plan to have the proper uniform available to change into.

No dilemma.   PPPPP...Prior Planning Prevents Poor Performance.

[a2capt]

"Signature edited.  Violation of Membership Code of Conduct."

I wondered when someone was going to do something with that ..

[Treadhead]

If you can't make the meeting on time due to a conflict, let your commander know this ahead of time.  If its a one time deal, chances are the CO will understand.

If this is going to occur frequently, then rearrange your time frames.  It might mean putting one organization on the back burner and returning to in at a later time when the schedule allows.

The worst thing you can do is keep showing up late.  Commanders do not like this.  Excuses only make matters worse.

[Bobble]

The OP is not currently a member of a unit and is going through the process of joining.  This is per reliable sources in NV Wg.

Thanks for the info, that plus the admin. edit of the OP's signature line explains a lot.  Best of luck to the OP and the OP's future Commander(s), it looks as if it could be quite an interesting experience for all involved.

[JayT]

So, if/when the situation presents itself that I can't change out of my NWU's or ABU's persay and I got to a squadron meeting, what happens? By that I mean what will usually happen, what's the worst that could happen, and should I just forgo the meeting?

You just want to show off that you're in different organizations.

[Abby.L]

The OP is not currently a member of a unit and is going through the process of joining.  This is per reliable sources in NV Wg.

Thanks for the info, that plus the admin. edit of the OP's signature line explains a lot.  Best of luck to the OP and the OP's future Commander(s), it looks as if it could be quite an interesting experience for all involved.

So okay, why would he even be in the honor guard uniform if he's not a member? I'm seriously going with the abovementioned "Trolling" as an explanation. This is the internet after all.

So, if/when the situation presents itself that I can't change out of my NWU's or ABU's persay and I got to a squadron meeting, what happens? By that I mean what will usually happen, what's the worst that could happen, and should I just forgo the meeting?

You just want to show off that you're in different organizations.

Though I normally wouldn't be so point-blank about this, that was actually my first thought when I saw this thread pop up. It took all my willpower to not call him out on it.

Now, to the OP: It is blatantly clear that you aren't exactly the best at taking advice. Every person(Myself excluded) who has answered to this thread is a veteran of CAP, the military, or both; Their advice is probably tried and true, if not logical at the least. So far, you've managed to provoke I don't know how many flaming sessions on here, and you've only been registered for a week or so? As was mentioned in several other of your threads,  You really need to work on the attitude. There is a logical point where you just have to think, "Hey, I have a CoC for a reason, why not use it?" This is probably one of these times. We can sit here lighting farts on fire, but none of them will apply to you in person. This is just a forum. If your commander is okay with the occasional appearance in NWUs or ABUs, then that's on him. If not, then you'll have to adjust by doing one of the many things that has been suggested on this thread. All I know is that this attitude of, "Well, I know I'm right. Now, let's see what happens when my thoughts are contrary to those more experienced," will certainly not get you very far in CAP, the Sea Cadets, JROTC, or life in general. You need to learn to follow before you can lead. I've been in 3 years, and sure, I'm leading, but I'm still following. That will happen anywhere in life. You can't just go into a new job thinking you got it down, when 5 minutes later, you burned yourself in the fryer grease.

As a last note, I'd certainly suggest toning it down in regards to the groups you're in. Yes, we get it. You're in Sea Cadets and AFJROTC, so you have all the advanced uniforms. I've only ever heard the USCG Auxies on here mention anything USCGAux related maybe 2-3 times, and with a much more respectable tone.

[Airman De Ruiter]

Cermonial Blues? Every Week? Why?

Im sorry, i did 5 years of JROTC (Dont Ask) 2 years NAVY and 3 Years Army. You ONLY were ceremonial blue on weekends. Unless your meeting is on a weekend i dont see how this is an issue. I understand you very enthusiastic, but you knew when coming into CAP that "Times" were going to clash with each other. As stated before, you cannot do everything, So Prioritize, is AFJROTC event more important than a CAP event? Is a Sea Cadet Event more important than a CAP Event? Vice Versa. I suggest taking a Time Managment Course. Just wait till you get a job, you will not have time for hardly any of that stuff. Go to work not in Uniform I dare ya, you will not have a job anymore.  You starting to remind me of RadioMan, a member that got banned on this Forum.

I didn't even know the Army and Navy had Ceremonial Blues. Anyway, I don't know what you're talking about with the "only on weekends" thing, we wear it whenever were presenting.





As for everybody else, I'm not ignoring your advice. I've said thanks for the advice about three times in this thread. Just because you repost the same answer 10 times doesn't mean it takes me ten times to understand. I got it the first time it was said. Manage time better, if I can't show up slightly late and in uniform, and stop overextending myself.

And for some reason I didn't think anybody would think that my last name is "Obvious" and that I was impersonating a C/Capt even after statig I was new to CAP.

By the way, I find it a little unnecessary to seek, find, and publish my personal information.