Poll for military veterans...

[Stonewall]

We often hear of people claiming military service but didn't serve, or more frequently, those who did serve admirably, but decided to add a few pieces of bling to their chest just for more attention and respect.

[Майор Хаткевич]

Isn't it a requirement to substantiate any RM awards worn on CAP uniforms?

[MSG Mac]

I have no problem furnishing any of my 4 DD214, my NGB 22, or my Retirement orders. I would redact the SSN and Service numbers though.

[MIKE]

IMO, provide and then validate claims as part of the background check.

[Al Sayre]

I was happy to give them a copy to substantiate my PME and avoid the dreaded ECI-13...

[Stonewall]

IMO, provide and then validate claims as part of the background check.

I like that!  It would be too easy to fabricate a DD 214 these days.  So produce a DD 214 upon application for membership, then sign permission for CAP to conduct an official FOIA request.

Or, if you decline such a requirement, you are not allowed to wear military insignia/awards or count PME towards SM advancement.  There, that's it!  You shouldn't have to provide proof of military service UNLESS you're reaping the benefits of such, to include wearing of medals/badges/awards and/or credit for PME.

[Cool Mace]

I was happy to give them a copy to substantiate my PME and avoid the dreaded ECI-13...

Oh come on. The ECI-13 wasn't THAT bad.

[Stonewall]

I was happy to give them a copy to substantiate my PME and avoid the dreaded ECI-13...

Oh come on. The ECI-13 wasn't THAT bad.

I did ECI-13 as a PFC in the Army, then went on to complete various levels of PME. 

[RogueLeader]

I am missing my AAM from my 214, but I have a copy of the orders for it.  My 214 was created about a week before my ETS and award of the AAM.  I can, however, provide all data needed for the awards I have.

[abdsp51]

ECI-13 what's that 

[Garibaldi]

ECI-13 what's that 

It's that course that was replaced....oh, wait. you're being sarcastic. 

[MSG Mac]

ECI-13 what's that 

It's the old CAP Officers Course which was replaced by the online OBC. 4 volumes each with a test that had to be completed prior to being allowed to procede to the next level. It was proceded by ECI-7,came out in the 60's which wa sproceded by ECI-1 in the 50's

[Al Sayre]

Give them the whole story:

It's the old CAP Officers Course which was replaced by the online OBC. 4 volumes (of mimeographed, barely legible text) each with a test (concerning mostly 10 years out of date regulations and information) that had to be completed prior to being allowed to procede to the next level. It was proceded by ECI-7,came out in the 60's which was proceded by ECI-1 in the 50's

[abdsp51]

Did ya'll not notice the smiley after the comment?  I know what it is I never took it I applied my NCOA completion towards it. 

[MIKE]

IMO, provide and then validate claims as part of the background check.

I like that!  It would be too easy to fabricate a DD 214 these days.  So produce a DD 214 upon application for membership, then sign permission for CAP to conduct an official FOIA request.

Or, if you decline such a requirement, you are not allowed to wear military insignia/awards or count PME towards SM advancement.  There, that's it!  You shouldn't have to provide proof of military service UNLESS you're reaping the benefits of such, to include wearing of medals/badges/awards and/or credit for PME.

What about sections C. and D. of the CAPF 12? 

[MSgt Van]

While we're at it, make sure we validate the diploma / GED thing before pinning Lt on somebody. I mentioned that once before a member was promoted and you'd thought I'd beaten a puppy.

If a vet doesn't want to validate their awards, then they shouldn't wear them. Heck, I'll show my DD214 or "Citation to accompany the award of..." certificates to anybody. I'm kinda proud of them.

[Flying Pig]

HECK YEAH!!! And while we are at it make sure Sq CCs undersand that there is no such thing as a classified DD214!!!  Im so sick of hearing that nonsense!!!  I know a guy right now who runs a business based off of war stories he cant verify that are supposedly supported by his classified DD214. Just take his word that he is a green beret medic/ UH 60 pilot!! 

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I have all my documentation in a locked fireproof cabinet behind me.

I can get it any time I need it in about 10 minutes.

[RADIOMAN015]

No, the member should have a right to choose what official document he/she wants to present IF he she wants to use that information for some sort of advance standing in CAP.
RM     

[SarDragon]

Back in your box, Ken.