Does CAP use flight helmets anywhere at all?

Started by RVT, April 01, 2011, 11:00:18 PM

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SarDragon

Then that info is incorrect.

According to WMIRS, CAWG has six 206s - 1 ea in Gp 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, and one in NJ for maint.
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Quote from: SarDragon on April 06, 2011, 09:48:29 AM
Then that info is incorrect.

According to WMIRS, CAWG has six 206s - 1 ea in Gp 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, and one in NJ for maint.
The one in NJ is usually assigned to Group 3.
The one currently in Group 3 had been based in Group 1.

RVT

Quote from: SarDragon on April 06, 2011, 09:48:29 AM
Then that info is incorrect.

According to WMIRS, CAWG has six 206s - 1 ea in Gp 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, and one in NJ for maint.

N206JK and N9420R are both 206G models, and they both belong to group 1 CAWG.

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In case you haven't noticed, N9420R is currently with Group 3 and not Group 1.
Granted, it is only temporary.

SarDragon

I was going to mention that, it wasn't a battle worth fighting.
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Quote from: RVT on April 06, 2011, 08:09:10 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 06, 2011, 09:48:29 AM
Then that info is incorrect.

According to WMIRS, CAWG has six 206s - 1 ea in Gp 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, and one in NJ for maint.

N206JK and N9420R are both 206G models, and they both belong to group 1 CAWG.

Uh No. All Aircraft belong to CAP and can be reassigned at the stroke of a pen.  When units/regions/wings forget that, it causes MANY problems that are usually corrected with a stroke of a pen.  Funny how that works..........
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RVT

Quote from: SarDragon on April 06, 2011, 11:05:59 PM
I was going to mention that, it wasn't a battle worth fighting.

I didn't say anything about the physical location of the aircraft, just that its on my books.  Until someone does that magical stroke of the pen, I have to submit reports on it.


SHARKMAN

So here is a link to a picture of a PR wing pilot in his life support equipment. And as a note, I had my life saved by my flight helmet in Oct 2008 when our HH-60( Army medevac Blackhawk) impacted a hillside in Northern Iraq. My head slammed sideways into the forward section of the gunner's window, splitting my helmet, and giving me a severe concussion. But not splitting my noggin. So I guess it'd be your personal preference. I know this is an old topic, but I figured it was poignant. http://www.flighthelmet.com/support/custpic/cp025.htm

Flying Pig

Quote from: SarDragon on April 05, 2011, 07:12:14 AM
There's a guy in SoCal who wears one, and the chatting behind his back is amusing to listen to. He has other issues, too, that also generate chit chat.

He'll be the one laughing when someone knocks themselves silly flying in the mountains when they catch a gust of wind.  I think that in SAR/Mountain flying the wear of a standard issue helmet should be required.  But nobody is going to pay for it.  The CHP (Calif Highway Patrol) airplanes fly with helmets also.  I am trying to get my agency to buy me one of the military issue ones.  I have an MSA Gallet that I can wear but its for the helicopter.  Works fine in the plane but its a bit big.  I also wear it so I can use my NVGs.
I think its interesting that helicopter pilots everywhere use helmets, airplane pilots, sometimes performing the same missions do not.  I was flying the mountains looking for weed one time and caught a completely unexpected and violent gust that smacked my left eyebrow against the door frame so hard it left a bruise.  Would have been nice to have a helmet.

http://www.gibson-barnes.com/Gentex+HGU-55_E+Fixed+Wing+Helmet/id/18/cat_id/30/prod_id/446/

PHall

Quote from: Flying Pig on June 11, 2011, 08:49:32 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 05, 2011, 07:12:14 AM
There's a guy in SoCal who wears one, and the chatting behind his back is amusing to listen to. He has other issues, too, that also generate chit chat.

He'll be the one laughing when someone knocks themselves silly flying in the mountains when they catch a gust of wind.  I think that in SAR/Mountain flying the wear of a standard issue helmet should be required.  But nobody is going to pay for it.  The CHP (Calif Highway Patrol) airplanes fly with helmets also.  I am trying to get my agency to buy me one of the military issue ones.  I have an MSA Gallet that I can wear but its for the helicopter.  Works fine in the plane but its a bit big.  I also wear it so I can use my NVGs.
I think its interesting that helicopter pilots everywhere use helmets, airplane pilots, sometimes performing the same missions do not.  I was flying the mountains looking for weed one time and caught a completely unexpected and violent gust that smacked my left eyebrow against the door frame so hard it left a bruise.  Would have been nice to have a helmet.

http://www.gibson-barnes.com/Gentex+HGU-55_E+Fixed+Wing+Helmet/id/18/cat_id/30/prod_id/446/

Nothing stopping you from buying your own. Just make sure the comms are compatible with the airplane.

RVT

Quote from: PHall on June 11, 2011, 08:56:43 PMNothing stopping you from buying your own. Just make sure the comms are compatible with the airplane.

My 1990's era US Army helmet needed a $100+ adapter to use it in a Cessna.  I did have a regular helicopter adapter, and when I tried that I could hear but not talk due the impedance mismatch.

I still think that the Nomex flight suit by itself is pointless.  You need the helmet & gloves to go with it.

If I get 3rd degree burns on my face & hands  I I don't care about the rest of me, its over.

Flying Pig

What I get a kick out of is when we do ride alongs at work.  We have our flight suits, gloves, helmets, aircrew vests with life preservers, leather boots....the whole get up.  The riders jump in with their jeans and t-shirts.  I had an old lady once who went on a ride.  She was a Grand Jury member, probably 70.  She asked, "Do I get any of that stuff too or am I just on my own."  I told her "Madam Grand Jurer, your on your own."  She laughed.

lordmonar

That was the point I made about the old PCR 60-1 supp that mandated nomex. 

If you are going to supplement something for wear as a "safety" item then we should wear something that prevents the majority of injuries during an air plane crash.....blunt force trama to the head.

But as you pointed out.....it is easy to get a flight suit for free or very cheap.......even a used or surplus flight helment will cost a $100 or so just to modify the comms.....and new....you are looking at $600 just as a starting place.

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