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General Discussion => Hysterical History => Topic started by: Rafael on August 02, 2010, 10:24:07 PM

Title: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: Rafael on August 02, 2010, 10:24:07 PM
The meaning of the propeller of  CAP is:
1) CAP blades: The 3 missions of CAP, Aerospace Education, Emergency Services, Cadet Programs.
2) The Hub: Means the members.
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: Eclipse on August 02, 2010, 10:30:46 PM
September is a month early.
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: SarDragon on August 02, 2010, 11:55:22 PM
Is there a clear purpose for regurgitating stuff we all learned in out first six months in CAP? Just wondering.
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: Daniel on August 03, 2010, 12:04:06 AM
Alrighty then,

The Cadet Oath is,

I pledge that I will serve faithfully in the Civil Air Patrol Cadet Programme and that I will attend meetings regularly, participate actively in unit activities, obey my officers, wear my uniform properly and advance my education and training rapidly to be of service to my community, state, and nation.


and the triangle is from the Civil Defense logo.
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: SarDragon on August 03, 2010, 12:12:59 AM
That was not a request to continue the practice.

(http://members.cox.net/xanadu99/CAP/Clock_ticking_away.gif)
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: Daniel on August 03, 2010, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on August 03, 2010, 12:12:59 AM
That was not a request to continue the practice.

(http://members.cox.net/xanadu99/CAP/Clock_ticking_away.gif)

just trying to help  :'(
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: BillB on August 03, 2010, 12:33:22 AM
Rafeal

So what does the triangle in a blue circle without the propeller indicate in CAP?

Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: ol'fido on August 03, 2010, 12:45:28 AM
Quote from: BillB on August 03, 2010, 12:33:22 AM
Rafeal

So what does the triangle in a blue circle without the propeller indicate in CAP?
It wasn't specifically mentioned in CAPM 39-1, so it had to go. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: davidsinn on August 03, 2010, 12:51:36 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on August 02, 2010, 10:30:46 PM
September is a month early.

Did miss something?
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: JC004 on August 03, 2010, 02:42:11 AM
So what does the revised, unofficial, unapproved (but still commonly in use at NHQ) logo mean?   >:D

j/w...

Quote from: SarDragon on August 03, 2010, 12:12:59 AM
That was not a request to continue the practice.

(http://members.cox.net/xanadu99/CAP/Clock_ticking_away.gif)

YAY!  The Countdown Clock of Doom is my favorite!
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: flyboy53 on August 03, 2010, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: BillB on August 03, 2010, 12:33:22 AM
Rafeal

So what does the triangle in a blue circle without the propeller indicate in CAP?

History lesson, one more time.

The prop and triangle is because we were first organized as the air arm of Civil Defense. The reason costal patrol or other World War II aircraft don't have a prop in the middle of the triangle is the same reason the "meatball" was taken out of the middle of the star on military aircraft. The powers that be didn't want anyone mistaking us or the military for a certain 'then enemy' aircraft...even though that red circle was a lot larger.
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: BillB on August 03, 2010, 11:55:40 AM
Flyboy

You are 100% correct. All of the Coastal Patrol aircraft had the red prop removed from CAP aircraft markings. However, inland, tow-trarget, liaison patrol  aircraft and others retained the red prop.
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on August 23, 2010, 09:21:19 PM
The red prop was removed in mid-1942, based on speculation by some of the Doolittle Raiders that Jap planes that they saw did not attack because they MAY have seen the red meatball and mistook them for their own aircraft.  The thinking was that if the Japs could mistake the insignia for theirs, an American rookie pilot might make the same mistake and shoot down one of our own planes.

When the Air Corps and Navy changed the insignia, CAP did too.
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: HGjunkie on August 23, 2010, 11:35:42 PM
[nitpick]

Quote from: Daniel L on August 03, 2010, 12:04:06 AM

I pledge that I will serve faithfully in the Civil Air Patrol Cadet Program, and that I will attend meetings regularly, participate actively in unit activities, obey my officers, wear my uniform properly, and advance my education and training rapidly to be of service to my community, state, and nation.

[/nitpick]
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: SarDragon on August 24, 2010, 12:53:12 AM
Tick-tock. Tick-tock. Tick-tock.  ;)
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: Smithsonia on August 25, 2010, 03:51:49 PM
Actually, the three bladed prop is older than CAP missions. In fact we have the prop design before we have CAP. I think the oldest pictures I've seen are late Oct, or early Nov. 1941. Originally it was placed inside the Civil Defense triangle... hence 3 blades.
Similar organizations placed an object inside the triangle also. So, Air Raid Wardens, Medical and Fire Brigades, Aircraft Spotters all had a design element inside the Blue Triangle.

You can find allied civil defense use of the CD Blue triangle here: http://www.snyderstreasures.com/pages/homefront.htm
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: Al Sayre on August 25, 2010, 04:17:42 PM
I think you all are answering a bot.  When I was in college, a few guys I knew were working on AI projects that would inject factoids into web conversations.  The OP did a drive by and made a few similar posts with factual statements but nothing else and hasn't been heard from since.
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on August 25, 2010, 04:36:51 PM
The bot did post some personal information which can be used to verify identity.
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: Smithsonia on August 25, 2010, 04:43:52 PM
Al;
Bot, really? I was hoping we were talking to Rafael Perez of the Cleveland Indians.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6512



Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: Al Sayre on August 25, 2010, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on August 25, 2010, 04:36:51 PM
The bot did post some personal information which can be used to verify identity.

I must have missed that.  Mea Culpa
Title: Re: Meaning of Civil Air Patrol Three-Bladed Propeller
Post by: SarDragon on August 25, 2010, 07:59:48 PM
There's an email addy and a unit in the profile.