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General Discussion => Hysterical History => Topic started by: Nikos on June 27, 2016, 04:37:38 PM

Title: Nuclear Assets
Post by: Nikos on June 27, 2016, 04:37:38 PM
Are all the nuclear assets (USAF & USN) under one national command, or does each Branch maintain its own control? 
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: Eclipse on June 27, 2016, 04:49:58 PM
(http://www.stratcom.mil/images/seals/emblem_seal.png)
https://www.stratcom.mil/ (https://www.stratcom.mil/)
(The fact that Stratcom's website pops a certificate error should help us all sleep better tonight...)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Strategic_Command (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Strategic_Command)

"United States Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM) is one of nine Unified Combatant Commands of the United States Department of Defense (DoD). It is charged with space operations (such as military satellites), information operations (such as information warfare), missile defense, global command and control, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (C4ISR), global strike and strategic deterrence (the United States nuclear arsenal), and combating weapons of mass destruction.

Strategic Command was established in 1992 as a successor to Strategic Air Command (SAC). It is headquartered at Offutt Air Force Base south of Omaha, Nebraska. In October 2002, it merged with the United States Space Command (USSPACECOM). It employs more than 2,700 people, representing all four services, including DoD civilians and contractors.

Strategic Command is one of the three Unified Combatant Commands organized along a functional basis. The other six are organized on a geographical basis. The unified military combat command structure is intended to give the President and the Secretary of Defense a unified resource for greater understanding of specific threats around the world and the means to respond to those threats as quickly as possible."


Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: LSThiker on June 27, 2016, 05:16:50 PM
Quote from: Nikos on June 27, 2016, 04:37:38 PM
Are all the nuclear assets (USAF & USN) under one national command, or does each Branch maintain its own control?

If by nuclear assets you mean weapons, then STRATCOM.  However, keep in mind that nuclear assets also includes non-weaponized nuclear material that can be used for medicine, fuel, and research.  Those are maintained by the individual services and are separate from STRATCOM.  These assets are under regulatory guidance from DoD, DoT, DoE, EPA, DHHS, and USCG. 
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: Spaceman3750 on June 27, 2016, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 27, 2016, 04:49:58 PM
(The fact that Stratcom's website pops a certificate error should help us all sleep better tonight...)

.mil has their own PKI/CA architecture, and the root CA does not participate in the browser trust programs like commercial CAs do. It has nothing to do with the safety of the site or the cert, you just haven't chosen to trust their CA. Remember the IWU days when you had to install the root cert for the .mil?
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: Eclipse on June 27, 2016, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 27, 2016, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 27, 2016, 04:49:58 PM
(The fact that Stratcom's website pops a certificate error should help us all sleep better tonight...)

.mil has their own PKI/CA architecture, and the root CA does not participate in the browser trust programs like commercial CAs do. It has nothing to do with the safety of the site or the cert, you just haven't chosen to trust their CA. Remember the IWU days when you had to install the root cert for the .mil?

Yes, thank you.  Now I know how cookies and certificates work. What an amazing week!
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: Spaceman3750 on June 27, 2016, 06:34:14 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 27, 2016, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 27, 2016, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 27, 2016, 04:49:58 PM
(The fact that Stratcom's website pops a certificate error should help us all sleep better tonight...)

.mil has their own PKI/CA architecture, and the root CA does not participate in the browser trust programs like commercial CAs do. It has nothing to do with the safety of the site or the cert, you just haven't chosen to trust their CA. Remember the IWU days when you had to install the root cert for the .mil?

Yes, thank you.  Now I know how cookies and certificates work. What an amazing week!

Glad to help ;).
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: DakRadz on June 27, 2016, 06:44:47 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 27, 2016, 06:34:14 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 27, 2016, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 27, 2016, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 27, 2016, 04:49:58 PM
(The fact that Stratcom's website pops a certificate error should help us all sleep better tonight...)

.mil has their own PKI/CA architecture, and the root CA does not participate in the browser trust programs like commercial CAs do. It has nothing to do with the safety of the site or the cert, you just haven't chosen to trust their CA. Remember the IWU days when you had to install the root cert for the .mil?

Yes, thank you.  Now I know how cookies and certificates work. What an amazing week!

Glad to help ;).


:clap: :clap: :clap:

Absolute gold.

(I also remember downloading the mil cert from a website that said something to the effect of "To ensure your browser trusts our websites as much as you obviously do")
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: Holding Pattern on June 27, 2016, 07:08:42 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on June 27, 2016, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 27, 2016, 04:49:58 PM
(The fact that Stratcom's website pops a certificate error should help us all sleep better tonight...)

.mil has their own PKI/CA architecture, and the root CA does not participate in the browser trust programs like commercial CAs do. It has nothing to do with the safety of the site or the cert, you just haven't chosen to trust their CA. Remember the IWU days when you had to install the root cert for the .mil?

Actually, their cert is throwing a security error, not a trust error. It still uses SHA-1.

(http://i.imgur.com/J6Zl0Au.png)

https://konklone.com/post/why-google-is-hurrying-the-web-to-kill-sha-1 (https://konklone.com/post/why-google-is-hurrying-the-web-to-kill-sha-1)
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: winterg on June 28, 2016, 03:38:51 PM
https://youtu.be/tV6X73bGKD0

Transmitted via my R5 astromech.

Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: raivo on July 25, 2016, 09:37:50 AM
Late to the party, but some clarification: it depends on the context of the question.

Operational control resides with USSTRATCOM, as mentioned; the individual services own the delivery systems and perform day-to-day maintenance and operations, to keep the forces combat-ready and available for STRATCOM operations. The actual physics packages are on loan to the DoD, and owned by the DoE.
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: Flying Pig on July 25, 2016, 11:22:32 AM
When I was in the Marines it was always DoE Nuclear Materials Couriers we dealt with at the facility. 
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: PHall on July 26, 2016, 03:52:05 AM
Quote from: Nikos on June 27, 2016, 04:37:38 PM
Are all the nuclear assets (USAF & USN) under one national command, or does each Branch maintain its own control?


I can neither confirm or deny that the United States Military processes or has control over any weapons of mass destruction.
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: SarDragon on July 26, 2016, 06:24:29 AM
B61

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/B-61_bomb_%28DOE%29.jpg)
Title: Re: Nuclear Assets
Post by: Flying Pig on July 26, 2016, 06:04:50 PM
I may or may not have had a job where I stood within about 5 feet of that with a SAW :)