Dear NHQ.

[Shuman 14]

After 10 posts about math.........you bet your 4th point of contact......as soon as we make the blues THE uniform.....we will have a bunch of people complaining.

And that's the point I was trying to make, regardless if everyone was allowed USAF Blues or one corporate para-Military was adopted for everyone, there would be some that will have the full kit the day it is authorized; some who will continue their current uniform choice up until the last minute it is authorized; and some who will bellyache about cost even if its the uniform that they want to wear.

[AlphaSigOU]

Assuming his research and pricing for his materials is correct, his math is not off. I attained the same result.

However, I believe the uniform manual does list a few items he does not include in the list.

1. Underwear
2. Senior member officer's or NCO's insignias.
3. Ribbons.
4. Tie clips or pins.
5. Socks.

Adding this would have made his math off. Is this what you mean by his math being off? But he already covered it by stating "over $300."

And don't forget the required tailoring for the service dress uniform - add sleeve braid and adjust the sleeve length on the jacket and trouser tailoring. And these are not free on the officer service dress uniform!

[Private Investigator]

Either way you can not make everyone happy. Some Senior Squadrons live in their polo shirts and other Senior Squadrons love their Air Force blue no matter what they weight.

Now Cadet squadrons is another story   

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Either way you can not make everyone happy. Some Senior Squadrons live in their polo shirts and other Senior Squadrons love their Air Force blue no matter what they weight.

I can only speak from experience in the one senior squadron I was part of.

Even polo shirts was pushing it sometimes.  It was usually just a CAP hat of some kind, or flight suits with no insignia other than leather nameplate.

Getting the unit into G/W caused grumbling, moreso with the blazer.

I was the only one who wore the blue uniform and BDU's (BBDU's didn't exist then).

On several occasions I was asked why I "wasted money" on all that when all I "needed" was the polo shirt (grey trousers were even somewhat of a rarity).

I do agree that, even if Hades were to register -115 degrees Kelvin and the AF would remove all limitations on their uniform, and CAP would make that the mandatory, sole uniform, there would be grumbling from people who think of CAP as basically a flying "Squad 51" (no offence; Emergency! was one of my favourites as a kid) and actively dislike any military connections.

There are a fair amount of Mennonites around where I grew up who, frankly, I probably could have recruited to CAP because they liked the life-saving aspect...however, they most certainly did not like the quasi-military aspects or young people in military-type uniforms (they disliked the BSA for the same reason).

[Al Sayre]

You know, you can never make everyone happy, so the best you can do is make everyone equally unhappy...

[Cliff_Chambliss]

You know, you can never make everyone happy, so the best you can do is make everyone equally unhappy...

Oh, you mean like the FAA?

[JeffDG]

You know, you can never make everyone happy, so the best you can do is make everyone equally unhappy...

Motto of Air Canada in my homeland:  "We're not happy, until you're not happy."

[THRAWN]

You know, you can never make everyone happy, so the best you can do is make everyone equally unhappy...

Oh, you mean like the FAA?

Oh, I see what you did there....I love regulator jokes....

[Johnny Yuma]

Before we start pointing fingers at Senior members uniformity (despite the fact they're all in compliance with 39-1) I can point to all kinds of pics of newbie cadets wearing all manner of uniform items to meetings, even to an encampment, that are so outside of regulation it makes your head spin.

Lay off the old guys until your own house is in order...

[Eclipse]

A senior member wearing his uniform improperly is the failure of a senior member.

A cadet wearing his uniform improperly is the failure of a senior member.

See how that works?