CAP Pilot makes emrgency landing off-field

[FW]

A new CAP C182 costs about $500k.  We no longer buy 172s.  From what I've heard, the aircraft will be fixed unless the cost of repair exceeds the value of the aircraft.  If so, it will be scrapped.

[SARDOC]

I will miss that 172!

But it was only "minor damage" 

They can replace the wing...it doesn't appear to be any other damage to the aircraft.  Nice job really.   Landing on a street at night with no runway lights.  this deserves a BZ and a SH for a job well done.

[Pylon]

They can replace the wing...it doesn't appear to be any other damage to the aircraft.  Nice job really.   Landing on a street at night with no runway lights.  this deserves a BZ and a SH for a job well done.

This.  +1  :clap: for the PIC.

[CAP_Marine]

I am sure you picked up on it from the story, but as a follow up as of this afternoon the PIC is doing just fine. We are pretty proud of her for keeping it all under control. I'm a ground guy so can't comment deeper on whether or not the airframe is salvagable but I do know that they cut off at least one wing in order to haul it away on a flatbed wrecker. Not sure if that makes a major difference on the overhaul or not. The initial speculation (emphasis mine) is that the engine threw a rod, thus leading to the power failure. Might just be totalled.

[SarDragon]

As an example, the tail of the center F-4 on the deck edge had its tail violently torn off in a collision with a Panamanian freighter (night, fog, inattentive navigation by the freighter's crew). The plane was in the air less than 6 months later. They removed the remainder of the tail at the disassembly point, installed another tail, rerigged the flight controls, and off to do battle once more.

[Eclipse]

Possible, yes, but the ROI on repairing a $2.4M combat aircraft that is 6 months old is somewhat different than on a 33 30 year old 172
that was probably worth about $75K when it took off.

Looks like up until 2007 it was an ARWG bird.

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N54872.html



http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8489437&rss=rss-ktrk-article-8489437

[Pylon]

Possible, yes, but the ROI on repairing a $2.4M combat aircraft that is 6 months old is somewhat different than on a 33 year old 172
that was probably worth about $75K when it took off.

Heck, the ROI is different when all your mechanics, machinists, avionics techs, and the whole nine yards are already on your payroll anyway.

[Eclipse]

Good point - and the parts are "free", too.

[lordmonar]

Possible, yes, but the ROI on repairing a $2.4M combat aircraft that is 6 months old is somewhat different than on a 33 year old 172
that was probably worth about $75K when it took off.

Heck, the ROI is different when all your mechanics, machinists, avionics techs, and the whole nine yards are already on your payroll anyway.

Nope....the calucalte parts and labor in all the NRTS 9 calcuations.  Of course it is a lot cheaper than a comercial rate...but you do figure it into whether you are going to condemn it or not.

[SarDragon]

Bob, where did you get "combat aircraft that is 6 months old"?

The BuNo on it was issued around 1971.

[NIN]

I will miss that 172!

But it was only "minor damage" 

They can replace the wing...it doesn't appear to be any other damage to the aircraft.  Nice job really.   Landing on a street at night with no runway lights.  this deserves a BZ and a SH for a job well done.

^This!

[Eclipse]

Bob, where did you get "combat aircraft that is 6 months old"?

Read this wrong...

The plane was in the air less than 6 months later.

[Extremepredjudice]

Watching that video it looks like there are a bunch of dents... which means body work and a new paint job.

What was the plane doing? AFAM? Can't be proficiency at 9:50 at night....
If it was an AFAM shouldn't she have had another person with her, observer, copilot, or whatever.

Spending 5-10k more for a safer, brand new plane seems like a good idea.

Well, it's won't be "5-10k more"  a new 172, which we really don't buy anymore, goes about $300k before CAP radios and
other required modifications.

New 182's are $350K+

Looks like a used wing goes for about $5-6k

Oh... I was thinking a new 172 cost about 100k.... I dunno why.

I was making up numbers [guestimating], too. For paint, new parts, tear down, etc.

[NIN]

What was the plane doing? AFAM? Can't be proficiency at 9:50 at night....

Sure. Night flying is something you need to be proficient at.

[JeffDG]

What was the plane doing? AFAM? Can't be proficiency at 9:50 at night....

Sure. Night flying is something you need to be proficient at.

Yeah, that was my thought too!  I've done C17s at night lots of times.

[Extremepredjudice]

yeah you need to be proficient at it, but night flying is more dangerous. Does CAP allow people to do proficiency flying at night?

[Eclipse]

What was the plane doing? AFAM? Can't be proficiency at 9:50 at night....

Sure. Night flying is something you need to be proficient at.

Yeah, that was my thought too!  I've done C17s at night lots of times.

Ditto - or a transport flight to a unit meeting. I did a couple of those as a Group CC, no biggie.

[JeffDG]

yeah you need to be proficient at it, but night flying is more dangerous. Does CAP allow people to do proficiency flying at night?

No regulation prohibiting, or even discouraging, it.

[Spaceman3750]

yeah you need to be proficient at it, but night flying is more dangerous. Does CAP allow people to do proficiency flying at night?

Pilots are required by the FAA to maintain a certain number of night takeoffs and landings in a period of time (90 days?) in order to be able to carry passengers at night. She could very well have been maintaining her FAA currency so that she can remain useful to CAP when the 2am ELT sounds.

Nothing to see here, move along .

[JeffDG]

yeah you need to be proficient at it, but night flying is more dangerous. Does CAP allow people to do proficiency flying at night?

Pilots are required by the FAA to maintain a certain number of night takeoffs and landings in a period of time (90 days?) in order to be able to carry passengers at night. She could very well have been maintaining her FAA currency so that she can remain useful to CAP when the 2am ELT sounds.

Nothing to see here, move along .

3 takeoffs and 3 landings to a full stop during the period between 1 hour after sunset to 1 hour before sunrise within the previous 90 days is required to carry passengers during that same SS+1 - SR-1 period.