Forget about CAP getting ABUs

[DogCollar]

The Army has gone fully to the "ASD," the blues uniform with a dark blue four square pocket, gold trimmed epaulets, you can either wear full size medals or ribbons, and the headgear is beret or service cap. The pants are almost an Infantry blue with NCOs wearing a gold stripe down the legs and private to E-4 (E-4 team leader considered NCO) with no gold stripe.

I have not heard of USAF thinking of changing the dress uniform again.

DOD says that they ant all branches to transfer into the same field uniform, but I don't see that happening with all the money that has already gone into the uniform changes.

My son just graduated from Army BCT at Ft. Sill.  The new Army blue uniform looks very, very classy and attractive in person.

[manfredvonrichthofen]

I love the Army blues, they are the only thing that I kept from the Army.

[MIKE]

I thought this thread was about ABUs?

[bosshawk]

Like most threads on CT, it always wanders.  Guess that interest was lost on the subject of ABUs.

[JohnKachenmeister]

Well, it IS still about uniforms and changes the AF may or may not make to such uniforms, so it hasn't wandered as much as some do!

[DakRadz]

Well, it IS still about uniforms and changes the AF may or may not make to such uniforms, so it hasn't wandered as much as some do!

And if these Service Dress options had been put into effect, the likely outcome is we would have phased them in. Seems that they are no longer being considered, but it was still relevant.

[JArvey]

BDUs are already getting scarce, if we are going to wear them for another 5 years, where are we going to find them?

Propper, Ebay, Army Navy stores, and other places. I can get a new set of BDUs easily through Propper, Army Navy stores either order new ones or sell surplus.

Propper BDU Blouse

Propper BDU Trousers

Barre Army Navy BDUs


Edit- added links

there are only a few BDUs in the army navy store at the moment, and nobody wants to order bdu's because that would cost almost twice the amount for a new set of ABUs in the army navy store.... and does anybody know if CAC has said anything about the ABU's?

[DakRadz]

CAC doesn't determine anything when it comes to uniforms. Or any regulation, for that matter.

CAC provides the adults with insight into our views and ideas for the cadet program.

We have no authority to authorize things.

Source: C/2d Lt, Primary CAC Rep. GAWG CAC.

ABUs are not allowed for CAP wear. Likely they will not be for some years. Buy the BDUs, because ABUs are far in the future for us.

[Hawk200]

...nobody wants to order bdu's because that would cost almost twice the amount for a new set of ABUs in the army navy store

Not sure where you're shopping, but that's a fail. ABUs are more expensive than BDUs, easily anywhere from five to twenty bucks per piece.

.... and does anybody know if CAC has said anything about the ABU's?

If you're talking Cadet Advisory Council, it doesn't matter what they say. Not up to them.

[JArvey]

CAC doesn't determine anything when it comes to uniforms. Or any regulation, for that matter.

CAC provides the adults with insight into our views and ideas for the cadet program.

We have no authority to authorize things.

Source: C/2d Lt, Primary CAC Rep. GAWG CAC.

ABUs are not allowed for CAP wear. Likely they will not be for some years. Buy the BDUs, because ABUs are far in the future for us.

First of all Wing CAC does not determine any regs. Only NCAC does (look at their website) and what Lt.? Becuase I am a C/2nd Lt. primary CAC rep in GAWG.

[tsrup]

oh no.  A dreaded CAC fight!

[Eclipse]

First of all Wing CAC does not determine any regs. Only NCAC does (look at their website)

NCAC doesn't "authorize" anything.

CAC has zero authority regardless of echelon, thus the "A".

[DakRadz]

^^^^^^^^Thank you, Eclipse, my good sir! ^^^^^^^^^^^

CAC doesn't determine anything when it comes to uniforms. Or any regulation, for that matter.

CAC provides the adults with insight into our views and ideas for the cadet program.

We have no authority to authorize things.

Source: C/2d Lt, Primary CAC Rep. GAWG CAC.

ABUs are not allowed for CAP wear. Likely they will not be for some years. Buy the BDUs, because ABUs are far in the future for us.

First of all Wing CAC does not determine any regs. Only NCAC does (look at their website) and what Lt.? Becuase I am a C/2nd Lt. primary CAC rep in GAWG.

Me, as to the source. I'm a primary rep.

NCAC does not determine regs either. Anyone believing they do is misinformed. We are cadets- we do not determine governance or regs.

[JArvey]

Cant the NCAC change some regs? I thought that until I read the NCAC website.

[DakRadz]

Cant the NCAC change some regs? I thought that until I read the NCAC website.

No.

[Eclipse]

Cant the NCAC change some regs? I thought that until I read the NCAC website.

No.  The only bodies which can make any regulatory changes are the NEC and the BOG.

[JArvey]

My apologies. And DakRadz what squadron are you from?

[ßτε]

Cant the NCAC change some regs? I thought that until I read the NCAC website.

No.  The only bodies which can make any regulatory changes are the NEC and the BOG.

... and the NB.

[DakRadz]

My apologies. And DakRadz what squadron are you from?

Dunno. Pretty sure I'm about to be OHWG. Not very active right now unfortunately.

[JArvey]

oh ok, Because at the GACAC conference I am the only lieutenant besides one.