Civilian Population Confusion with CAP Members Wear of Military Field Uniforms

[Flying Pig]

"Im out in the county, only the Sheriff can arrest me in the county"......

Um, well not true, but good news is that Im a Sheriff so it doesnt matter......

Oh....I thought you were the PD

[Private Investigator]

I had a 5150 (mentally ill subject) who was dressed like Woody from "Toy Story" exclaimed to the officers, "I will not surrender to anybody except the sheriff!" Of course the subject is 6' 5" and a hard 300 pounds.

I told the guys, let me talk to him. On my uniform I had the Distinguish Master pistol badge that look like a small sheriff's badge. I told the 5150, that badge was my commission from the sheriff to bring him. He let me put the cuffs on him and take him to the mental hospital.

[jks19714]

Corps of Engineers?  Is this "civilian" even aware that the VAST majority of Corps employees are civilian?  You're not too likely to see many servicemembers on a CONUS engineering project, let alone in the old BDUs.

OTOH, it wasn't unusual to see Department of Defense employees in ACUs with "deployed civilian" patches (yes, Vanguard carries them) in the box in the early days.

I don't understand why certain people are SO fixated on this subject...  CAP members on ES missions are more likely to be taken as airsofters. 

[bflynn]

Corps of Engineers?  Is this "civilian" even aware that the VAST majority of Corps employees are civilian? 

Probably not - it's the ARMY corps, so everyone must be in the military, right? 

What most people know about the ACoE starts with building airfields in WWII and ends with inspecting levees in New Orleans.

Yes, I know...they are confusing SeeBees with ACoE...my point is they lump everyone together and don't make distrinctions beyond Army, Navy, Air Force or Marine.

[Spaceman3750]

What most people know about the ACoE starts with building airfields in WWII and ends with inspecting levees in New Orleans.

Around here everyone knows them for blowing Mississippi River levees and flooding out farmland.

[Smokey]

Why after reading one of RM's posts do I feel the need to take a shower?!

[bflynn]

Why after reading one of RM's posts do I feel the need to take a shower?!

I don't know - why do you feel the need to post that you do?  An interesting psychology question I suppose...

I probably should follow this advice too, but if he posts something that bothers you, just ignore it.

[manfredvonrichthofen]

I am over the issue of people confusing us with military. If they ask, tell them, if not, then what is the issue? Someone is there either training to help them, or helping them.

It is good to know that there are well trained people who are professional and look good out furthering their training to help.

[Smokey]

I'm sorry Bflynn.....you are the almighty wise one. I apologize for not rising to your level of moral relativism.  I will go give myself 30 lashing.

[Extremepredjudice]

Chill out guys. We are on the same side. If you don't like someone ignore his or her posts. Simple as that.

[Eclipse]

Chill out guys. We are on the same side. If you don't like someone ignore his or her posts. Simple as that.

We've discussed this before - it's not that simple.

Since this is a public board and is fully indexed externally, these ideas and comments are exposed to the universe.
Unchallenged they come back as "fact".  BTDT.

[Extremepredjudice]

Sir, getting snippy with each other won't enhance our reputation. As Bflynn and Smokey were getting.


Sometimes you have to take a break, relax, maybe watch some TV?  My post was directed at Bflynn and smokey.

[AngelWings]

Why after reading one of RM's posts do I feel the need to take a shower?!

I don't know - why do you feel the need to post that you do?  An interesting psychology question I suppose...

I probably should follow this advice too, but if he posts something that bothers you, just ignore it.

She we just ignore things that hurt our organization?

We sure as hell didn't ignore Pearl Harbor or 9/11 as an organization.

[Extremepredjudice]

Why after reading one of RM's posts do I feel the need to take a shower?!

I don't know - why do you feel the need to post that you do?  An interesting psychology question I suppose...

I probably should follow this advice too, but if he posts something that bothers you, just ignore it.

She we just ignore things that hurt our organization?

We sure as hell didn't ignore Pearl Harbor or 9/11 as an organization.

That is a big leap... Pearl harbor != trolls on a forum.

[AngelWings]

Why after reading one of RM's posts do I feel the need to take a shower?!

I don't know - why do you feel the need to post that you do?  An interesting psychology question I suppose...

I probably should follow this advice too, but if he posts something that bothers you, just ignore it.

She we just ignore things that hurt our organization?

We sure as hell didn't ignore Pearl Harbor or 9/11 as an organization.

That is a big leap... Pearl harbor != trolls on a forum.

If you are calling me a troll, than stop. Remember Coastal Patrol? We didn't sit down with our thumbs up our butts during Pearl Harbor or 9/11. We did something. Blyfnn's attitude towards the issue is that we should ignore problems that arise instead of fix them. RM's comments are surely a problem for us as an organization. Our attitudes here as Civil Air Patrol is much more different than to sit down when a challenge arises. Give me a break, I was trying not to say something along the lines of two highschooler kids in a fight.

Personally, I am sick of RM feeling he needs to repeat his agenda to get us out of uniform. He has his right, but it has crossed the line.

[bflynn]

Sir, getting snippy with each other won't enhance our reputation. As Bflynn and Smokey were getting.


Sometimes you have to take a break, relax, maybe watch some TV?  My post was directed at Bflynn and smokey.

And your post isn't snippy?  lol

Let's talk about ideas, not people...?

[EMT-83]

If you are calling me a troll, than stop...

EP and "troll" is on par with RM and "civilian".

If you have a different opinion, you obviously are a troll. Maybe that's another word that could be added to the profanity filter.

[Extremepredjudice]

I only use troll when I see a troll.


We could change "troll" to "unicorn."

[Flying Pig]

Corps of Engineers?  Is this "civilian" even aware that the VAST majority of Corps employees are civilian? 

Probably not - it's the ARMY corps, so everyone must be in the military, right? 

What most people know about the ACoE starts with building airfields in WWII and ends with inspecting levees in New Orleans.

Yes, I know...they are confusing SeeBees with ACoE...my point is they lump everyone together and don't make distrinctions beyond Army, Navy, Air Force or Marine.

Now youve crossed the line.  As a Marine I was NEVER confused with being in the Air Force!

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Now youve crossed the line.  As a Marine I was NEVER confused with being in the Air Force!

What about being confused with the Navy?

Seriously...the opinions (and you know the old saw about opinions, everybody's got one and they all stink, some more than others) of CAPTalkers (and that includes me; I'm as full of Bull Durham as the next one sometimes) aren't worth getting an ulcer about.  Take a break, take some Pepto, or whatever you need to do.