"Corporate Uniform" Gone!!

Started by Pingree1492, November 07, 2009, 11:04:33 PM

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NCRblues

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Hawk200


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From "The Sentinel," 01 DEC 09:
" CAPR 62-1 is the guiding document for safety awards and it is
important for commanders at all levels in CAP to remember that awards
and recognition are the only "pay" we can offer our members. With that
said, here is a quick review of CAP safety awards as well as a few tips to
increase chances of success in winning one."

Should be amended to: "...that awards and recognition are the only "pay" we can offer our members – and only those that can wear the AF-style uniform"

Just a little venting at those that think the fat & fuzzies should not have a military-style uniform.
G. St. Pierre                             

"WIWAC, we marched 5 miles every meeting, uphill both ways!!"

RogueLeader

You can wear your CAP awards on white and grays.  Just no mil stuff, which is impossed by CAP not the AF.
WYWG DP

GRW 3340

Eclipse

Quote from: RogueLeader on December 04, 2009, 04:47:14 PM
You can wear your CAP awards on white and grays.  Just no mil stuff, which is impossed by CAP not the AF.

Yes, you can.  Please reference my post regarding looking like an 8th grader who forgot it was picture day when you are standing in a line of fellow members in service jackets and you're in a shirt.

"Well, just wear the blazer, then."

Yep, except, you know, that ribbon / badge thing.

"That Others May Zoom"

RickFranz

Quote from: RogueLeader on December 04, 2009, 04:47:14 PM
You can wear your CAP awards on white and grays.  Just no mil stuff, which is impossed by CAP not the AF.

What you say it very true. 

But if you walk into a room of folks wearing the AF style jacket with all their ribbons, wings and badges on.  Then you walk in with a Blazer on, you feel under dressed.  On the other had most folks that I have seen that where the AF style uniform when not wearing the jacket only wear miniature wings and badges.  Well you walk in with the grey and whites with all your bling, now you feel over dressed.

There just does not seem to be a happy middle ground with two different style uniforms being allowed.
Rick Franz, Col, CAP
KSWG CC
Gill Rob Wilson #2703
IC1

RogueLeader

Then the commander should have wear guidence for awards.  All Authorized awards/ badges/ just badges, or minimum.   

Thats a Commanders job.
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GRW 3340

Eclipse

Quote from: RogueLeader on December 04, 2009, 05:03:02 PM
Then the commander should have wear guidence for awards.  All Authorized awards/ badges/ just badges, or minimum.   

Thats a Commanders job.

???

Badges and ribbons are required on service dress - at any formal event where a jacket is required you have the line of
military-esque guys with their finery, and the group of officials from the Kremlin (or Hogwarts, if you prefer), and/or worse the
guys with the plastic pocket protectors.

If jelly beans and badges are the only "pay", why is member "A's" finery more "important" than member "B's" who happens to be
fully slim and trim, but wears a neat beard?

"That Others May Zoom"

Hawk200

So why not allow ribbons/badges on the blazer? Move nametag to the right side. Voila! Everybody has decorations.

arajca

Well, gee. That looks like the AF service coat, minus the epaulets. In low light, you'd never know the difference.

wuzafuzz

Quote from: arajca on December 04, 2009, 05:53:09 PM
Well, gee. That looks like the AF service coat, minus the epaulets. In low light, you'd never know the difference.
No worries, before long we'll probably be concerned the uniform sounds the same to legally blind folks.
"You can't stop the signal, Mal."

RogueLeader

Quote from: Eclipse on December 04, 2009, 05:10:35 PM
Quote from: RogueLeader on December 04, 2009, 05:03:02 PM
Then the commander should have wear guidence for awards.  All Authorized awards/ badges/ just badges, or minimum.   

Thats a Commanders job.

???

Badges and ribbons are required on service dress - at any formal event where a jacket is required you have the line of
military-esque guys with their finery, and the group of officials from the Kremlin (or Hogwarts, if you prefer), and/or worse the
guys with the plastic pocket protectors.

If jelly beans and badges are the only "pay", why is member "A's" finery more "important" than member "B's" who happens to be
fully slim and trim, but wears a neat beard?

Even on the service coat, it says all or some.  And if thats the case that Blues withService coats are the  UOD, then the Greys put all of their blinage on.

WYWG DP

GRW 3340

Eclipse

Quote from: RogueLeader on December 04, 2009, 10:14:34 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on December 04, 2009, 05:10:35 PM
Even on the service coat, it says all or some.  And if thats the case that Blues withService coats are the  UOD, then the Greys put all of their blinage on.

You're missing the point entirely - wearing the ribbons under the blazer is silly - no one sees them - and a white shirt with ribbons is not equivalent to a service jacket in terms of formality or appearance, thus the "8th grader / picture day analogy". 

The only way to display your finery is to stand in line wearing a shirt with no hat when all the others are in a jacket with a cover.

"That Others May Zoom"

billford1

The gray slacks will always look screwed up. 

The CyBorg is destroyed

Quote from: billford1 on December 04, 2009, 11:40:16 PM
The gray slacks will always look screwed up.

Seconded.

I have never been able to figure out why grey was chosen as an "alternative" uniform.
Exiled from GLR-MI-011

sparks

Instead of grey slacks why not dark blue or black? Someone wearing a polo and dark slacks would look more "uniform" when standing next to someone wearing the corporate dark blue flight suit or field uniform. Dark slacks and a blazer would look like a Navy uniform but it would be a small price to pay for uniformity.

Major Carrales

Quote from: Eclipse on December 04, 2009, 05:10:35 PM

military-esque guys with their finery, and the group of officials from the Kremlin (or Hogwarts, if you prefer), and/or worse the guys with the plastic pocket protectors.


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"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
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Major Carrales

Quote from: arajca on December 04, 2009, 05:53:09 PM
Well, gee. That looks like the AF service coat, minus the epaulets. In low light, you'd never know the difference.

Bring on the new WAL*MART greeter vests with ribbons, badges and pocket protector.  Of course it has to be color 1625.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

Major Carrales

Quote from: CyBorg on December 04, 2009, 11:51:18 PM
Quote from: billford1 on December 04, 2009, 11:40:16 PM
The gray slacks will always look screwed up.

Seconded.

I have never been able to figure out why grey was chosen as an "alternative" uniform.

Seriously, Brig General Anderson told me that it was to reflect the gray in the CAP flag, the the change from maroon to gray shoulder marks.  If you think about it, CAP's base colors on the USAF Style uniform are the shades of USAF Blue and Gray.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

billford1

Quote from: Major Carrales on December 05, 2009, 01:34:26 AM
Quote from: CyBorg on December 04, 2009, 11:51:18 PM
Quote from: billford1 on December 04, 2009, 11:40:16 PM
The gray slacks will always look screwed up.

Seconded.

I have never been able to figure out why grey was chosen as an "alternative" uniform.


Seriously, Brig General Anderson told me that it was to reflect the gray in the CAP flag, the the change from maroon to gray shoulder marks.  If you think about it, CAP's base colors on the USAF Style uniform are the shades of USAF Blue and Gray.
Sir, Perhaps the gray has some significance with CAP. The Gray epaulets are ok but the gray slacks were ill conceived.