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CAPSOC_0pur8ur
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« on: April 14, 2018, 12:42:07 AM »

So those of you who are in the You Know You're In Cap When... fb page (the good one, not the new snowflake one) know it's been pretty lit today. What are you guys' thoughts on CAP members who use the anonymity of social media to post things that they wouldn't say in person? Do y'all think there should be more serious repercussions for acting like a pos when you have CAP plastered across your facebook?

Please keep the discussion civil. I Don't want to get into specifics of the particular incident- I'd rather use it as a kind of case study to see what action can/should be taken
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2018, 07:18:40 AM »

I'll leave these two words right here:

Core Values

I think that frames the reasons
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2018, 11:49:42 AM »

I'm seeing at least 5. Which are you saying is the "good one"?  The one with 7000 members?

https://www.facebook.com/search/str/You+Know+You%27re+In+Cap/keywords_groups
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2018, 12:35:21 PM »

Its a difficult issue. SO many folks with fake profiles. They can say what they want, and be anon.

If you KNOW who it is, there are ways of dealing with it. Chain of command at lower levels. Keep it local if possible.

But when it comes to Facebook in general, its the wild west. Everyone participating should know that its not a place where "group pages" use Robert's Rules of Order or have any other means of order. Its anarchy at best, usually with a Admin (who created the page) or two that will monitor and control on a whim, depending on their mood that day.

IOW ... do NOT get on Facebook expecting it to always be pleasantries and perfect decorum.  Its NOT the nature of the beast.

I know folks who have unplugged.  They seem happier now.  :)
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2018, 02:36:32 PM »

It seems we have bigger fish to fry, such as auxnewsnow and auxbeacon.... they are the ones with professional looking websites who are spreading false info about us.
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CAPSOC_0pur8ur
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2018, 03:00:55 PM »

I'm seeing at least 5. Which are you saying is the "good one"?  The one with 7000 members?

https://www.facebook.com/search/str/You+Know+You%27re+In+Cap/keywords_groups

Yes, the biggest one is the original, all of the others are clones
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2018, 07:09:59 PM »

I'll leave these two words right here:

Core Values

I think that frames the reasons

I agree with NIN on this. Someone once told me that discretion is the better part of valor; I believe that to be true and I try to mentor Seniors and Cadets to that standard.
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2018, 08:21:55 PM »

I don't even bother to even visit that group.
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etodd
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2018, 09:52:33 PM »

This one is much more civil and is moderated actively:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/249849541798600/
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2018, 10:23:09 PM »

I find it humorous that one can comment on anonymity in social media and post said comment from behind a anonymous username on an unofficial discussion board.

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CAPSOC_0pur8ur
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2018, 10:24:51 PM »

The key here is that  we are not abusing anonymity in order to get away with being a turd
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etodd
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2018, 10:28:59 PM »

I find it humorous that one can comment on anonymity in social media and post said comment from behind a anonymous username on an unofficial discussion board.

Most everyone here on CapTalk knows who everyone is. Only a handful are anon, like yourself.
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Gunsotsu
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2018, 09:44:53 PM »

Most everyone here on CapTalk knows who everyone is. Only a handful are anon, like yourself.

Those that need to know, know.

7465 registered users, there's a lot of anonymity.
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etodd
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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2018, 10:05:36 PM »


7465 registered users ....

And probably less than 100 that participate based on what I usually see around here.  Either lots of lurkers, or the system doesn't purge folks that haven't checked in for years.
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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2018, 01:34:09 AM »


7465 registered users ....

And probably less than 100 that participate based on what I usually see around here.  Either lots of lurkers, or the system doesn't purge folks that haven't checked in for years.

All of the above.

The top 20 posters have made one-third of the posts.

The top 60 posters have made over 53% of the posts.

84 members have made at least 1,000 posts.

955 members have made just 1 post, and 3883 members are lurkers, with zero posts, a few going back all the way to 2005.

Oh, yeah, 35 people have been banned.  :)
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PHall
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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2018, 09:33:06 AM »

Only 35 have been banned? Seems like it should be more. Or have they just been that memorable?
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Eclipse
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2018, 10:04:43 AM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
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Sriracha
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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2018, 11:36:34 AM »

I know you'd said you didn't want to go into the specifics, but how specific can you relay here? (Not names or specific squadrons or anything) as I don't have a facebook account. Just the gist of what happened.
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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2018, 12:08:52 PM »

I know you'd said you didn't want to go into the specifics, but how specific can you relay here? (Not names or specific squadrons or anything) as I don't have a facebook account. Just the gist of what happened.
Please don't.
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Sriracha
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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2018, 12:15:11 PM »

I know you'd said you didn't want to go into the specifics, but how specific can you relay here? (Not names or specific squadrons or anything) as I don't have a facebook account. Just the gist of what happened.
Please don't.

If it's that bad, nevermind then. On terms of online conduct, however, we should all follow our core values, as NIN said.
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