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 on: Yesterday at 08:52:13 PM 
Started by stratocaster29 - Last post by PHall
I'm not advocating that we start wearing the bags at meetings or even change what seems to be a common interpretation of the regulation. I just think it is interesting that there is almost an anti-aircrew sentiment in an organization that has flying as an integral component of its mission. This is the only service that cares so much about this issue compared to other services including military, law enforcement, medical, etc. Every branch or agency that has rated flyers consider the flight suit their duty uniform whether they are flying that day or not.

CAP doesn't even need the flight suit - the rest of the GA world flies in shorts and t-shirts.
Nomex in a Cessna is a silly affectation, and there is no statistical basis for it to be considered a
factor in reducing GA injuries, because thankfully there aren't enough GA crashes that include both
fire and Nomex.

CAP doesn't have a "duty uniform".  It does have an MBU, which is whites.

CAP doesn't issue uniforms to adults, nor compensate them for the purchase, therefore
they can't have a "duty uniform" (despite the assertion by 39-1 that a CC can set any UOD).

Expecting people to dress properly and leave the tactical onsie at home when it's inappropriate
for the activity isn't "anti-aircrew" it's "pro appearance and common sense".

However if there is an "anti-aircrew bias" look to the behavior of the "zipper-suited sun gods"
who in many cases disregard not only uniform but other CAP protocols and policies, including height and grooming,
not to mention wearing the same bag they bought 20 years ago, including the wrong insignia and coffee stains.

The argument against the flight suit could be made for more than just GA. It's not usually the fire that kills you, it's the sudden impact prior to the fire.

I get it, it's a mentality that some are better than others or think that the rules don't apply for whatever reason. That is not limited just to CAP, trust me. It's just interesting to me that the flight suit is the only one where so many people scream "No! Never to our squadron meetings!" when it's just another uniform hanging in the closet.

I was always politely informed that the reason for the fire bag is so that you can be properly identified after the crash, not to protect you from dying during a crash and the subsequent fire. lol.

But the May Authorize is in regards to those without qualifications.... for those who have them, there are no restrictions.

That said, and as I stated above... don't be that toolbag.

From what I understand I think the dog tags will be all that's identifiable at that point, but it's a good possibility!  8)

I concede that it can be looked at from both perspectives - what we can determine from the verbiage and what could be seen as the intent. The common thread though is always... don't be that toolbag.

That's why many of us "old time" flyers wore a dog tag attached to or boot laces, the boot usually survives.

Of course DNA makes ID an almost sure thing.

 on: Yesterday at 08:51:54 PM 
Started by beachdoc - Last post by beachdoc
Following is the body of an email sent by NC WG PAO I thought it would be of interest:


We have never seen the likes of the media coverage that the NCWG is getting for our Hurricane Florence work! 

Great job everyone and thank you!!











 on: Yesterday at 08:41:07 PM 
Started by OldGuy - Last post by PHall
It's a bit more complicated then flipping a switch.

 on: Yesterday at 07:22:48 PM 
Started by OldGuy - Last post by OldGuy


"The B737 aircraft, with 166 guests and 5 crew landed normally in Mumbai," Jet Airways said in a statement. "All guests were deplaned safely and taken to the terminal. First aid was administered to few guests who complained of ear pain, bleeding nose etc."

An official with the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) told CNN affiliate CNN News 18 that the crew allegedly forgot to press a button to pressurize the cabin.

"During climb, crew forgot to select bleed switch due to which cabin pressurization could not be maintained, and oxygen masks got deployed," the official said.

 on: Yesterday at 06:31:08 PM 
Started by GaryVC - Last post by OldGuy
Get a real phone and save yourself some money:



Does pretty much everything a Scanner / Observer needs, including CAP grids.
Looks great - thanks!

 on: Yesterday at 06:30:53 PM 
Started by jb512 - Last post by Ned
Interesting. So an AF astronaut, not otherwise rated, would qualify for the CAP observer badge? That's definitely an over-qualification.  ;)

No, he would wear his Astronaut wings or USAF observer badge.

Why would he want to reach for an equivalency when he's already got a badge for that space?

In all seriousness, when I served on the NUC not so long ago, we received a request to approve CAP Astronaut wings.

It was not approved.

 on: Yesterday at 05:44:22 PM 
Started by GaryVC - Last post by GaryVC
I have purchase the basic plan. Now I have to figure out how to use it. (Foreflight appears to be popular in our wing.)

 on: Yesterday at 04:05:52 PM 
Started by Color Guard Rifleman - Last post by MacGruff

I had it wrong.

Oh well. Happens.

Thanks for the clarification.

 on: Yesterday at 03:33:41 PM 
Started by Color Guard Rifleman - Last post by wacapgh
CAPR 60-1
7.2. Constitution.
 7.2.1. Allotment of Seats. Commanders may appoint one primary representative and one assistant to serve on the CAC at the next higher echelon. Region commanders appoint two Phase IV or Spaatz cadets. Wing commanders appoint two cadet officers. Composite and cadet squadron commanders appoint two cadet NCOs or officers. If the unit does not have qualified cadets available, the position(s) may remain vacant.

Or -
Squadron commanders may appoint two cadets (NCO or Officer) to Group CAC. If you do not have a Group CAC, then Wing CAC.
The Wing commander may appoint two Cadet Officers to Region CAC. No option for a Cadet NCO at this level.
Region commanders may appoint two Phase IV cadets (C/Major, C/Lt. Colonel) or Cadet Colonels to National CAC

Also, in CAPR 60-1

7.2.6. Double-Service Discouraged. Because the CAC exists to provide cadets with advanced leadership opportunities, the program should operate so as to involve the maximum number of eligible cadets. Therefore, concurrent appointments to multiple CACs is discouraged. (Example: The wing chairperson should not concurrently serve as the wing’s representative to the region.)

So if you are currently a squadron representative to a Wing CAC, you should not be appointed as Chairperson or Vice Chair of the Wing CAC.

 on: Yesterday at 03:28:29 PM 
Started by jb512 - Last post by jb512
Interesting. So an AF astronaut, not otherwise rated, would qualify for the CAP observer badge? That's definitely an over-qualification.  ;)

No, he would wear his Astronaut wings or USAF observer badge.

Why would he want to reach for an equivalency when he's already got a badge for that space?

*insert facepalm meme*

I was just asking a simple question.

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