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 on: Today at 11:45:06 AM 
Started by Picy3 - Last post by TheSkyHornet
More often than not, I see cadets who keep a blank patch on it, or none at all, where insignia would go. This is technically out of uniform, as your insignia must be visible on all cadet uniforms and in the appropriate place.

If/when you get the fleece, wear it only with the appropriate accouterments---all of them, as required---and don't go around with the "Oh, yeah, I just haven't gotten around to getting the patches yet" attitude. It sets a really bad example.


For the others on the thread:
The one on Vanguard matches the government spec; it includes the placements for hook and loop attachments.



On another note, I just received mine but the Square Black tab (or whatever it is called; to put my rank on) is on backorder. I see what you mean here on wearing all or nothing, so what would you guys say to do in this situation? I have the nametapes just not the Black square. Should I wear it just with the intention of "its on order still" or go without it until it eventually arrives.

If they don't have, nothing you can do about it. Just wear the name and CAP tapes until you get it. And BTW, it's navy blue. Also, depending if your rank insignia is big enough, you can get a c/2ndLt square and put your insignia over the dot.


Would that same consideration apply to wearing ABUs without ranks sewn on or a flight cap without insignia?

I'm not so sure that not having it excuses the uniform requirements. If you purchase an optional wear item that, if worn, has mandatory accouterments, you need to purchase everything that goes with it.

There is something that can be done about it: "Hey, don't wear it until you have the full uniform."

I'm one to give a week or two pass on something like that. Get the insignia. If you don't have the insignia after a reasonable couple of weeks, take it off until you wear it properly. Because at that point, it's becoming laziness. If there's an outstanding exceptional issue, such as "I just don't have the money," come talk to me.

 12 
 on: Today at 11:35:26 AM 
Started by cadetcadet - Last post by TheSkyHornet
I've had cadets date in my unit, and it didn't work out...fairly badly, actually. One ended up leaving (among other reasons, not just dating, but it contributed).

I've had cadets pass love letters to each other---one of the same individuals from the above relationship---and pulled them aside to have the "I don't care what you do outside of CAP, but it ends at the parking lot" discussion.

Honestly, I think it's something not to even bring up internal to CAP (outside of Cadet Protection Program policies regarding adult relationships). If cadets date, and it doesn't seem to be an issue, whatever; not my business. If cadets date, and there are signs that it's affecting CAP, there's going to be a chat.

I wouldn't warn anyone not to date until it actually becomes an issue, or if someone asks me for advice (and I've had that one as well). I'm not going to be 'that person' throwing weight around like I'm policing something that hasn't yet occurred.

 13 
 on: Today at 11:30:26 AM 
Started by Blitzy - Last post by TheSkyHornet
I agree; get a new belt. You'll screw up the woven fabric and cause all sorts of hassles.

I don't use the Velcro, but mine was issued with ACUs way back. I had a black one for the BDU with the Velcro when I first joined, and I like the non-Velcro a lot better.

 14 
 on: Today at 01:25:52 AM 
Started by Blitzy - Last post by I_Am_Twigs
I had this same issue. If you want the easiest way then just buy a new belt. The process is just tedious and not worth it.

This belt will work perfectly fine, it's the same kind I use.

https://www.patriotoutfitters.com/trugunner-desert-sand-plain-bdu-belt?PMOPV1=DES&PMOPV2=LG&PMSRCE=92350007&gclid=CjwKCAiAl7PgBRBWEiwAzFhmmjJ9o19GK9Yl7HEMh9UvcjnWDAQGg9ZJvlJ03MRMhKrkrEYwRvnwJhoCOU0QAvD_BwE

 15 
 on: Today at 01:22:02 AM 
Started by cadetcadet - Last post by I_Am_Twigs
I have been through this experience as well, I would not recommend it, in fact I'd highly advise against it.

Having said that, there are a few cadets in my squadron that are dating each other, I really don't care what they do, or when they do it, as long as they keep it outside of CAP and outside of uniform.

 16 
 on: Today at 12:16:26 AM 
Started by cadetcadet - Last post by Eclipse
Why create a problem where there doesn't have to be or isn't one?

Exactly.

 17 
 on: Today at 12:14:20 AM 
Started by cadetcadet - Last post by CAPDepCom

anyone who pushes back too much on the "you can't make me"
side of something common sense says is a poor idea, that raises eyebrows, regulations or no.

And with teens/young adults, that's exactly why you don't want to hammer away on the "don't do it" part of your personal opinion message on this issue.  The more you say "don't", the more likely they *will*.  It's the "don't stuff beans up your nose" effect.

In regard to adults: it's a volunteer program.  Aside from set rules and regulations, it's best to not tell grown adults what they can and can't do when you are in a volunteer environment.  Tick them off over something you didn't need to tick them off about and you risk losing them.  CAP already has an attrition issue and statistics show that too large a percentage of senior members leave after their first six months.  Why create a problem where there doesn't have to be or isn't one?

There are also any number of states and situations where specific kinds of contact between cadets is illegal.

Pretty sure most, if not all reading this, already know that.

 18 
 on: Today at 12:11:28 AM 
Started by cadetcadet - Last post by OldGuy

People will do what they do, ....
I did.


Yep. As is often the case, Eclipse is right. (Maybe not terribly relevant, but right!)

 19 
 on: Yesterday at 11:58:05 PM 
Started by cadetcadet - Last post by Eclipse
for every successful CAP relationship, you'll find a significant number of utter failures.

Well golly, isn't that pretty much true in all walks of life, period?  For every successful relationship with another person, you'll find a good number of utter failures.  Few people find their significant other on the first try.  It's called playing the romance game and it's been going on like that for time immemorial.


And it's a game best played away from CAP.

The same goes for Scouts, work, or any place else people have to work closely together and
may wind up in situations that breed nepotism, favoritism, or worse, exclusion.

People will do what they do, but anyone who pushes back too much on the "you can't make me"
side of something common sense says is a poor idea, that raises eyebrows, regulations or no.

There are also any number of states and situations where specific kinds of contact between cadets is illegal.

 20 
 on: Yesterday at 11:51:15 PM 
Started by cadetcadet - Last post by OldGuy
As that  "oldguy" I agree with Eclipse. I married my cadet sweetheart though so back when I was younger (well, a LOT younger) I paid no attention to that kind of well meaning advice. (And yes, our squadron Chaplain suggested I not go down the path I did. I married her anyway.)

Maybe better are ways to help our cadets understand and manage their issues?

For example my wife and I as unmarried cadets NEVER exhibited PDA in uniform or at sponsored events - as in NEVER.  Our rule and it helped.

Again, Eclipse is right. But then there is reality.

(PS 42 years and counting, if you want to know!)

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