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General Discussion => Membership => Topic started by: mikeylikey on August 26, 2007, 10:24:08 PM

Title: Conference Attendance
Post by: mikeylikey on August 26, 2007, 10:24:08 PM
Does attending a Wing/ Region/ National conference as a Cadet count toward the requirement for Senior Member attendance.  I scanned through the pro Dev guide, but must have missed it.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on August 26, 2007, 10:34:33 PM
Whoa.

That's one darned good question.

I don't know.  I'd suspect that the answer would be "No," since the date of attendance would be before the date one "Joined CAP" on the computer once one becomes an officer.

But I don't know what the correct answer is.
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: Duke Dillio on August 26, 2007, 10:38:12 PM
CAPR 50-17, 5-1(d):
Attend two wing, region, or national conferences. These conferences afford CAP members a broad view of the CAP corporation's organization and expose them to the issues confronting CAP. The National Congress on Aviation and Space Education and a region/wing aerospace education conference are credited as conferences. Conferences attended prior to entry into Level III count toward fulfillment of this requirement.

The way I interpret this is that all conferences attended while a CAP member, regardless of status count toward this requirement.
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: JC004 on August 26, 2007, 10:50:38 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on August 26, 2007, 10:34:33 PM
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I don't know.  I'd suspect that the answer would be "No," since the date of attendance would be before the date one "Joined CAP" on the computer once one becomes an officer.
...

My join date is my cadet join date...
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: jb512 on August 27, 2007, 12:15:53 AM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on August 26, 2007, 10:34:33 PM
Whoa.

That's one darned good question.

I don't know.  I'd suspect that the answer would be "No," since the date of attendance would be before the date one "Joined CAP" on the computer once one becomes an officer.

But I don't know what the correct answer is.

My "joined cap" date is confusing.  I started as a cadet in 90, have my Mitchell and encampment dates showing in 92, 91, and I quit after that.  My join date shows as some random date in 93 and I didn't rejoin until 07.
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: JC004 on August 27, 2007, 01:25:32 AM
Quote from: jaybird512 on August 27, 2007, 12:15:53 AM
My "joined cap" date is confusing.  I started as a cadet in 90, have my Mitchell and encampment dates showing in 92, 91, and I quit after that.  My join date shows as some random date in 93 and I didn't rejoin until 07.


I have seen records like that.
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: IceNine on August 27, 2007, 03:16:10 AM
Definitive Answer from one who's BTDT...

YES, Documentation of completion of a Wing, Region, National, or Aerospace conference counts. 

As well as completion of AFIADL 13, completion of items listed for completion of ES or Communications speciality tracks with the exception of Senior specific items (completion of levels) and the like also count.  Just ensure proper documentation.
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: RogueLeader on August 27, 2007, 04:14:50 AM
If went as a cadet, or rejoined, I'd write a letter explaining the situation, along with any documentation I had to verify.
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: ZigZag911 on August 27, 2007, 05:23:58 AM
Some things completed as a cadet do not count for senior credit: Level 1, CPPT, SLS, CLC
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: Tim Medeiros on August 27, 2007, 05:44:43 AM
CPPT does count, I'm walking evidence.
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: Grumpy on August 27, 2007, 05:58:21 AM
Good for you.  You were too fast for me.  If you check eservices you can check a person's training.  If he is currently a SM and he took CPPT as a cadet it will show as training received.

Samething for his/her join date.  I have a young man in our squadron who just turned 21 and came over to the dark side.  His date joined shows as the original date he joined as a cadet.
Title: Re: Conference Attendance
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on August 27, 2007, 06:19:15 AM
Well, what the heck...

When you fill out the form for your SM award, put down the dates you atended the conferences and hope for the best.

The worst they can do is say "No."