It seems like I remember a discussion about this, but I can't find it. Anyone remember it and know where to find it? Thanks.
Use the search function at the top of the page.
I tried several variations of hat/cap/van/inside, etc and mainly got old topics with those words, but not what I remember.
My search came up with this old gem.
http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=719.msg7805#msg7805 (http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=719.msg7805#msg7805)
and this one
http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=17634.40 (http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=17634.40)
Thank you. Those are good. I still remember someone posting something up an experiment with videos of the senior member wearing or not wearing headgear. It was also mentioned that 39-1 is silent on the issue (as was/is 35-10/36-2903).
We follow the same rules and traditions as the Air Force. Hats (cover is not an Air Force or CAP term) are normally worn outdoors only, unless there's a designated "No Hat-No Salute" area. A member can wear their hat while in a vehicle, but it's not required.
here ya go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ9hFbQJeDE&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ9hFbQJeDE&feature=youtu.be)
Boom! That's what I was thinking of. My squadron was in a parade. I wore my Service Dress (with flight cap). I ended up driving and wore my cap, thinking it looked more formal. I heard someone mention something about whether we should be wearing headgear in a vehicle and I ignored them, wanting to post this up after I got home. Thank you! (Did the Mess Dress fit OK Colonel?)
Quote from: LegacyAirman on January 16, 2016, 02:52:00 PM
Boom! That's what I was thinking of. My squadron was in a parade. I wore my Service Dress (with flight cap). I ended up driving and wore my cap, thinking it looked more formal. I heard someone mention something about whether we should be wearing headgear in a vehicle and I ignored them, wanting to post this up after I got home. Thank you! (Did the Mess Dress fit OK Colonel?)
mess dress fit like a dream
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/12185088_10206707558321339_3460596509484563135_o.jpg)
(me, on the right, with three guys from CadetStuff. Two of whom I'd known for years online only and literally only met that week, and of course, the incomparable Colonel John Knowles.)
ETA: Actually, this pic shows more CAP-Talkers:
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12188948_10206707560721399_9051615103606614391_n.jpg?oh=7bcc36221500a4ab2b7b65b9bc549667&oe=57415A4B)
Why didn't you identify them? Some of us want to place faces to the handles used here... Or would you need permission from them to do so?
Where is Korona's hair?!!? And on a more serious note, how is Colonel Knowles able to wear the Maryland Distinguished Service Cross? It's a Maryland state award and I thought those were no-go...
Quote from: THRAWN on January 16, 2016, 10:55:11 PM
Where is Korona's hair?!!? And on a more serious note, how is Colonel Knowles able to wear the Maryland Distinguished Service Cross? It's a Maryland state award and I thought those were no-go...
Aww man, I lost the bet that someone would turn this into a uniform thread in less than an hour.
Psst...it is a uniform thread. But seriously, I cant wear my Maryland awards, why is a colonel who should know better...
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on January 16, 2016, 10:30:57 PM
Why didn't you identify them? Some of us want to place faces to the handles used here... Or would you need permission from them to do so?
On the picture with the CAPTalk-ers:
From left to right:
1. Cannot place the name
2. Nin
3. Col John Knowles
4. Ned
5. Lordmonar
6. elkorona
7. Jeders
Thank you.
We went south today to take a tour of the Warner Robins AFB museum. When we got in the van, I took my hat off, and one of the cadets said "Oh, the Major took his hat off, everyone." So, they followed by example.
Almost 30 years in the Air Force and I never heard of issues with wearing hats in vehicles until I joined CAP.
That's Al Sayre from MS Wing on the far left. Not sure Al's on here or not.
He sure is!
Quote from: kwe1009 on January 17, 2016, 01:11:13 AM
Almost 30 years in the Air Force and I never heard of issues with wearing hats in vehicles until I joined CAP.
Welcome to CAP! >:D
Quote from: THRAWN on January 16, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
Psst...it is a uniform thread. But seriously, I cant wear my Maryland awards, why is a colonel who should know better...
I asked him several months ago, when I saw a picture of him wearing the award. He said the Maryland AG awarded it and the National Commander ( who was also in the picture), didn't say anything when he wore it.
Quote from: MSG Mac on January 17, 2016, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on January 16, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
Psst...it is a uniform thread. But seriously, I cant wear my Maryland awards, why is a colonel who should know better...
I asked him several months ago, when I saw a picture of him wearing the award. He said the Maryland AG awarded it and the National Commander ( who was also in the picture), didn't say anything when he wore it.
That's a BS answer. Just because the boss didn't say anything it must be okay?
John, I know you'll read this. So, what's that line about integrity? "Doing the right thing even when nobody is watching?"
Quote from: MSG Mac on January 17, 2016, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on January 16, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
Psst...it is a uniform thread. But seriously, I cant wear my Maryland awards, why is a colonel who should know better...
I asked him several months ago, when I saw a picture of him wearing the award. He said the Maryland AG awarded it and the National Commander ( who was also in the picture), didn't say anything when he wore it.
I have awards from 3 states. They are no go on CAP uniforms no matter who else is in the picture.
Quote from: THRAWN on January 17, 2016, 07:47:27 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on January 17, 2016, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on January 16, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
Psst...it is a uniform thread. But seriously, I cant wear my Maryland awards, why is a colonel who should know better...
I asked him several months ago, when I saw a picture of him wearing the award. He said the Maryland AG awarded it and the National Commander ( who was also in the picture), didn't say anything when he wore it.
I have awards from 3 states. They are no go on CAP uniforms no matter who else is in the picture.
Just because they didn't notice or say anything, doesn't mean you can wear whatever.
Quote from: MSG Mac on January 17, 2016, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on January 16, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
Psst...it is a uniform thread. But seriously, I cant wear my Maryland awards, why is a colonel who should know better...
I asked him several months ago, when I saw a picture of him wearing the award. He said the Maryland AG awarded it and the National Commander ( who was also in the picture), didn't say anything when he wore it.
ISTR that there was something about CAP Wing Commanders in MD being awarded that by the AG or something, and it was "OK'd per NHQ".
If folks want to ask him, his email is right there in the CAP directory in eServices. I'm sure he'll answer your kindly worded question.
Otherwise, posting here about it is just tilting at windmills.
Just sent Colonel Knowles an email. I will report back with any response.
Quote from: NIN on January 17, 2016, 08:01:06 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on January 17, 2016, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on January 16, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
Psst...it is a uniform thread. But seriously, I cant wear my Maryland awards, why is a colonel who should know better...
I asked him several months ago, when I saw a picture of him wearing the award. He said the Maryland AG awarded it and the National Commander ( who was also in the picture), didn't say anything when he wore it.
ISTR that there was something about CAP Wing Commanders in MD being awarded that by the AG or something, and it was "OK'd per NHQ".
If folks want to ask him, his email is right there in the CAP directory in eServices. I'm sure he'll answer your kindly worded question.
Otherwise, posting here about it is just tilting at windmills.
There's a big difference in being green lighted by National to receive the award vs being okay to wear it.
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on January 16, 2016, 10:30:57 PM
Why didn't you identify them? Some of us want to place faces to the handles used here... Or would you need permission from them to do so?
I'm in the top photo - 2nd from the left (Ch, Lt Col Paul Ward)
Thank you for the response, Chaplain!
Quote from: Chappie on January 18, 2016, 01:44:27 AM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on January 16, 2016, 10:30:57 PM
Why didn't you identify them? Some of us want to place faces to the handles used here... Or would you need permission from them to do so?
I'm in the top photo - 2nd from the left (Ch, Lt Col Paul Ward)
Doggone it Paul, I didn't realize you were Chappie here. Durrrr.
Took him long enough to out himself.
St00pid phone.
Quote from: SarDragon on January 18, 2016, 06:58:52 AM
St00pid phone.
Speaking of which, on Saturday Spam and I were talking about me checking out a computer from the unit to use for squadron business. He said he thought I had one of my own, and I said no, currently I'm doing all my work on my phone. Hard to do e-services stuff on my phone, blah blah blah. He gave me a weird look and said "You mean to tell me you do ALL THAT POSTING TO CAPTALK ON YOUR PHONE???" I nodded, and he shook his head. "All I can say is, fast thumbs," he mumbled.
Quote from: NIN on January 17, 2016, 04:08:05 AM
That's Al Sayre from MS Wing on the far left. Not sure Al's on here or not.
Speak of the devil and up he pops.... >:D
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 18, 2016, 02:09:47 PM
Quote from: NIN on January 17, 2016, 04:08:05 AM
That's Al Sayre from MS Wing on the far left. Not sure Al's on here or not.
Speak of the devil and up he pops....
Like summoning Beetlejuice
Don't say that two more times! :P
I take my hat off for all those medals! I stopped at 21.....
I got a response for Colonel Knowles. Here is the core of it "The CAP/CC has authorized me to wear it with my mess dress."