Trump announces he's directing Pentagon to create 'space force' branch ...

Started by OldGuy, June 18, 2018, 08:42:43 PM

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PHall

Well, nothing is going to happen until congress says it's going to happen.
They're the one's who control the money and as we all know nothing happens without money.
And many members of the Senate and House Armed Services Committees agree with the Generals,
it's not needed and is a solution in search of a problem.

sarmed1

If this were to move beyond the scope of the existing USAF responsibility my guess is it would evolve to some form of joint command that reports directly to DoD rather than as a new "6th" service.  Much in the same was as SOCOM exists.

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Johnny Yuma

Quote from: MIKE on June 19, 2018, 12:02:20 AM
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"And Saint Attila raised the Holy Hand Grenade up on high saying, "Oh Lord, Bless us this Holy Hand Grenade, and with it smash our enemies to tiny bits. And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and stoats, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and lima bean-"

" Skip a bit, brother."

"And then the Lord spake, saying: "First, shalt thou take out the holy pin. Then shalt thou count to three. No more, no less. "Three" shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three. "Four" shalt thou not count, and neither count thou two, execpting that thou then goest on to three. Five is RIGHT OUT. Once the number three, being the third number be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade to-wards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuffit. Amen."

Armaments Chapter One, verses nine through twenty-seven:

Johnny Yuma

Easy solution:

Reorganize NASA as a uniformed service under Title 10 and place them under the Secretary of Defense. Transfer budget, personnel and operations of both NASA, National Reconnaissance Office and USAF Space Command to new service with its senior leader a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

You're welcome.
"And Saint Attila raised the Holy Hand Grenade up on high saying, "Oh Lord, Bless us this Holy Hand Grenade, and with it smash our enemies to tiny bits. And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and stoats, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and lima bean-"

" Skip a bit, brother."

"And then the Lord spake, saying: "First, shalt thou take out the holy pin. Then shalt thou count to three. No more, no less. "Three" shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three. "Four" shalt thou not count, and neither count thou two, execpting that thou then goest on to three. Five is RIGHT OUT. Once the number three, being the third number be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade to-wards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuffit. Amen."

Armaments Chapter One, verses nine through twenty-seven:

Cliff_Chambliss

A little respect here would go a long way.  President Trump has a title and good manners say it should be used.
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TheSkyHornet

Quote from: PHall on June 20, 2018, 01:09:54 AM
Well, nothing is going to happen until congress says it's going to happen.
They're the one's who control the money and as we all know nothing happens without money.
And many members of the Senate and House Armed Services Committees agree with the Generals,
it's not needed and is a solution in search of a problem.

Not to mention that the United States Constitution specifically enumerates the power to Congress to establish the military, and the President to exercise executive authority over it.

THRAWN

Quote from: Johnny Yuma on June 21, 2018, 02:53:25 AM
Easy solution:

Reorganize NASA as a uniformed service under Title 10 and place them under the Secretary of Defense. Transfer budget, personnel and operations of both NASA, National Reconnaissance Office and USAF Space Command to new service with its senior leader a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

You're welcome.

Merge NASA with the commercial space branch in the FAA. Take the Star Force out of the existing military space commands. Transfer their troops, equipment, budgets and bases to the new branch. Just change the letter heads. You're welcome.
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Johnny Yuma

Quote from: THRAWN on June 25, 2018, 03:03:30 PM
Quote from: Johnny Yuma on June 21, 2018, 02:53:25 AM
Easy solution:

Reorganize NASA as a uniformed service under Title 10 and place them under the Secretary of Defense. Transfer budget, personnel and operations of both NASA, National Reconnaissance Office and USAF Space Command to new service with its senior leader a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

You're welcome.

That'd work too.

I never understood why they never made NASA a uniformed service not unlike NOAA and UHS anyway.
Merge NASA with the commercial space branch in the FAA. Take the Star Force out of the existing military space commands. Transfer their troops, equipment, budgets and bases to the new branch. Just change the letter heads. You're welcome.
"And Saint Attila raised the Holy Hand Grenade up on high saying, "Oh Lord, Bless us this Holy Hand Grenade, and with it smash our enemies to tiny bits. And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs, and stoats, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and lima bean-"

" Skip a bit, brother."

"And then the Lord spake, saying: "First, shalt thou take out the holy pin. Then shalt thou count to three. No more, no less. "Three" shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three. "Four" shalt thou not count, and neither count thou two, execpting that thou then goest on to three. Five is RIGHT OUT. Once the number three, being the third number be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade to-wards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuffit. Amen."

Armaments Chapter One, verses nine through twenty-seven:

Eclipse

One of the main reasons NASA was created as a civilian agency was to promote the peaceful use of space, which is why defense and intelligence
missions are handled by the USAF, not NASA (at least on paper.)

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