When to wear?

[Cool Mace]

Need some help guys!

I want to know if there is a reg saying you can NOT wear your uniform outside of CAP i.e. Wedding, party ect...

I haven't been able to find anything that goes along these lines.

[MIKE]

CAPM 39-1 Table 1-1.

[Cool Mace]

I didn't see anything that says you can't.

So would that make it ok then?

[Майор Хаткевич]

You can wear it when it says you can. If it doesn't say it, then it's not allowed.

When all else fails, ask the commander.

[SarDragon]

OK, let's take a closer look. Do any of the activities you asked about fit any of these categories?

participating in or conducting the cadet program

flying in CAP aircraft (corporate and member-owned aircraft used in
CAP flight activity)

when engaged in normal duties as a CAP member or attending local,
wing/region, or national CAP functions

visiting military installations

If not, then wear is not permitted. The CAP uniform is intended to be worn only at CAP events, or while officially representing CAP.

It appears to me that you are trying to justify wearing the uniform, even when given guidance against doing so.

[Cool Mace]

Thank you for your help!

[Cool Mace]

Does anyone know what would happen to a cadet that did wear the uniform outside of CAP?

2b, demotion, stepping down from a command postion?

[davidsinn]

Does anyone know what would happen to a cadet that did wear the uniform outside of CAP?

2b, demotion, stepping down from a command postion?

Drawn and quartered.

[Cool Mace]

Does anyone know what would happen to a cadet that did wear the uniform outside of CAP?

2b, demotion, stepping down from a command postion?

Drawn and quartered.

You really think it should go that far?

[Eclipse]

Does anyone know what would happen to a cadet that did wear the uniform outside of CAP?

2b, demotion, stepping down from a command postion?

The first time its usually "Don't do that again."

[Cool Mace]

Does anyone know what would happen to a cadet that did wear the uniform outside of CAP?

2b, demotion, stepping down from a command postion?

The first time its usually "Don't do that again."

is there any reg agaisnt it?

[Cool Mace]

Does anyone know what would happen to a cadet that did wear the uniform outside of CAP?

2b, demotion, stepping down from a command postion?

The first time its usually "Don't do that again."

Sorry, is there a reg saying what to do if a cadet does do it?

[SarDragon]

No specific reg, but it's certainly within the commander's powers to mete out some sort of punishment.

[Cool Mace]

No specific reg, but it's certainly within the commander's powers to mete out some sort of punishment.

So they couldn't 2b someone or make them step down from a command position since there is not a reg giving what the punishment should be?

[cap235629]

what exactly did you do?

[Cool Mace]

what exactly did you do?

Wore it to a wedding, and a Sr. M. Is on my case about it and trying to get me in trouble.

[SarDragon]

No specific reg, but it's certainly within the commander's powers to mete out some sort of punishment.

So they couldn't 2b someone or make them step down from a command position since there is not a reg giving what the punishment should be?

That's not what I said. Depending on the severity of the offense, that punishment could be anything from, "Don't do that again", to a 2b. It's up to the commander to decide. It is likely that the former would be appropriate in your case, unless you did it after being told not to.

[Eclipse]

what exactly did you do?

Wore it to a wedding, and a Sr. M. Is on my case about it and trying to get me in trouble.

Permission of your unit CC is required by regulation to wear the CAP uniform (in any flavor), outside of CAP activities.

With that said, its not the end of the world, and unless you were defaming CAP, the President, or drove through a
school bus full on nuns with a DUI on the way home, a 3000 PSI stare, along with a "Don't do it again", should be where it ends.

If you are a repeat offender, especially disparaging the uniform, that's a different dynamic.

Is this person hassling you in your command chain or in a position of influence?  Because if he's not I would respectfully tell him to mind his own business.  If he is, fall on your sword and move on.

No one in their right mind would remove a commander or effective staff officer for this alone, and there's no way a 2B for this would ever
survive the MARB.

[JoeTomasone]

Permission of your unit CC is required by regulation to wear the CAP uniform (in any flavor), outside of CAP activities.

Cite please.   Where does it say that the unit CC can authorize uniform wear when 39-1 does not itself permit it?

[TACP]

Permission of your unit CC is required by regulation to wear the CAP uniform (in any flavor), outside of CAP activities.

Cite please.   Where does it say that the unit CC can authorize uniform wear when 39-1 does not itself permit it?

Yeah, there is nowhere in 39-1 in which states unit CC can approve such wear. Reference all of 39-1 table 1.1 for approved wear of CAP and AF style uniforms. The only thing that would really save you is if the wedding was on a military base. Other than that it's not approved by the regs. Not like you'll get more than a lecture, as long as you didn't do anything else, but I wouldn't do it again.