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Started by Capmonkey, February 21, 2021, 04:21:36 PM

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Capmonkey

Hey, y'all.
    I'm at the point in my CAP career that the amount of ribbons I'm eligible for are pushing the limit for what can be worn. What would y'all suggest to fit 20 ribbons on Class A's and B's? I'm not really a fan of short stacking, so I'm just trying to figure out the best way. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

C/Lt Col Capmonkeh

Eclipse

You eliminated the solution, so...

"That Others May Zoom"

LGM30GMCC

In more helpful advice;

On service dress (Class As) you can wear ribbons 4 across as long as the lapel does not cover the ribbons, in which case you reduce to rows of 3, 2, or 1. (See Figure 11-1 in CAPR 39-1)

This is not an option in regular blues (Class Bs).

If you are not required to wear ribbons in your class Bs, you can elect not to wear them at all.

If you are required to wear ribbons, then short stacking is your best option. You're a C/Lt Col; everyone who knows knows you have all the successor ribbons, anyone who doesn't--likely doesn't care all that much how many ribbons you have.

Capmonkey

Thanks for the advice!

Okayish Aviator

I very rarely have to wear my service jacket but don't wear ribbons on blues for this exact reason. Badges get it and that's it.

Wear the highest cadet achievement ribbon and be done with it. lol
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GroundHawg

We weren't allowed to short stack when I was a cadet, I would have definitely taken advantage of that. I guess go 4 wide  and hope you don't tip over.

NIN

Short stacking is definitely the solution. Drop all but the milestones. Or even just wear your highest.

I dropped all but my Garber from my PD ribbons (the senior equivalent to achievement ribbons) because it's a given that you need the others to get to the top one. My ribbon rack was getting out of control, and that helped.

(Side note: I'd support making it so you only wear one PD ribbon, your highest, for the same reason. But that would limit new folks and that might not be what we want)

YMMV, but short-stacking is really the best answer here.
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Jester

Quote from: NIN on February 23, 2021, 12:56:47 PMShort stacking is definitely the solution. Drop all but the milestones. Or even just wear your highest.

I dropped all but my Garber from my PD ribbons (the senior equivalent to achievement ribbons) because it's a given that you need the others to get to the top one. My ribbon rack was getting out of control, and that helped.

(Side note: I'd support making it so you only wear one PD ribbon, your highest, for the same reason. But that would limit new folks and that might not be what we want)

YMMV, but short-stacking is really the best answer here.

I'd support just having one ribbon and updating the number device on it to denote level achieved.

Shuman 14

Quote from: Jester on February 23, 2021, 05:59:21 PMI'd support just having one ribbon and updating the number device on it to denote level achieved.

You could eliminate all of the Professional Development Awards and the Senior Aerospace Education Awards and combine them into one medal/ribbon.

Pick one of the Current PD Ribbons, I personally like the color scheme of the Membership Award, and make that the new "Professional Development and Aerospace Education Award" ribbon/medal drape (PDAEA).

Add a bronze numeral to the Ribbon for each level of the PD Program completed above Level 1 (i.e. "2" through "5").

Numeral is worn centered on the Ribbon.

Members who complete Squadron Officer School, Air Command and Staff College, or Air War College would be authorized to wear a bronze, silver, or gold 5/16 star (respectively) on the award ribbon. The Star will be worn to the viewer's right of the Numeral.

Members who complete the Requirements of the Yeager Award will wear a silver 3/16 star to the viewer's left of the numeral.

Members who complete the Requirements of the Crossfield Award will wear a gold 3/16 star to the viewer's left of the Yeager Silver Star.

The Mini-Medal will use the PDAEA ribbon drape but the medal medallion will change with each advancement to the individual medal medallion from the old seven individual award system.

Membership Award = Level 1 [No Devices]
Yeager Award (replaces Membership medallion) [No Devices]
Davis Award/Leadership Award (replaces Yeager medallion) [Silver 3/16 star on Ribbon Drape]
Loening Award (replaces Leadership medallion) [Silver 3/16 star on Ribbon Drape]
Crossfield Award* (replaces Loening or Leadership medallion) [Silver 3/16 star on Ribbon Drape]
Garber Award (replaces Loening or Crossfield medallion) [Silver 3/16 star on Ribbon Drape]
Wilson Award (replaces Garber medallion) [Silver 3/16 star on Ribbon Drape]

5/16 Bronze, Silver or Gold Star can be worn on any level of the PDAEA but will be worn under the Yeager Star

*Note: Crossfield Award is not required of every member and can be awarded before completing Level III, Gold 3/15 Star will be worn on Garber and/or Wilson PDAEA above the Yeager Star.

At the highest Level, with the most Devices, the PDAEA Medal would have a Wilson Medallion with a Crossman Star, a Yeager Star and an Air War College Star on the ribbon drape.

At the highest Level, with the most Devices, the PDAEA Ribbon would have a big Gold Star, a big Silver Star, a "5" numeral and a small Gold Star.

That would help with the "super stacks" some members now have.

Just my two cents on the matter.  ;)
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