Oakridge man faces sex abuse charges

Started by Private Investigator, May 05, 2013, 05:25:38 PM

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Private Investigator

This story is from last year (April 26, 2012). Anybody has an update?

OAKRIDGE, Ore. -- An Oakridge man was arrested Thursday on sex abuse charges.
David Sierakowski, 39, faces charges that he tried to corrupt a child on-line.
Sierakowski is the commander of Oakridge's Civil Air Patrol unit, a training program for young people interested in the U.S. Air Force.
Police said Sierakowski was contacted at Oakridge High School, and the victim is a member of the Civil Air Patrol unit at that school. Sierakowski was suspended from the CAP program when officials were informed of the allegations.
Before becoming involved with a CAP unit, applicants undergo an FBI background check and a Cadet Protection Program training. Sierakowski passed both of these clearances nearly 10 months ago, when he became a member.
The Oregon Wing Commander with CAP, Col. Brian Bishop, said that these accusations are being taken very seriously by the organization.


http://www.kval.com/news/local/Oakridge-man-faces-sex-abuse-charges-149177335.html

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Devil Doc

YA, he is just wrong, at least it ws girls and not guys, but still wrong. Now I have know a few guys that got charged because the girls lied. Some of these 14,15 and 16 year old look 20 some things, gotta watch them.
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Woodsy

Quote from: Devil Doc on May 05, 2013, 10:29:06 PM
YA, he is just wrong, at least it ws girls and not guys, but still wrong. Now I have know a few guys that got charged because the girls lied. Some of these 14,15 and 16 year old look 20 some things, gotta watch them.

That's the truth.  Just last week one evening I was enjoying an adult beverage with a buddy at a local establishment when I see a few people causing a scene, followed by the manager escorting them out.  I asked the waitress what happened and they said one of the girls mothers had shown up and was mad they were serving her beer.  Evidently she was 16 even though she had an ID that said she was 22, and she looked it too.  Scary...

mwewing

Quote from: Devil Doc on May 05, 2013, 10:29:06 PM
YA, he is just wrong, at least it ws girls and not guys, but still wrong.

I don't see what difference that makes. A pedophile is attracted to children. I don't see any difference whether the children are male or female. I am sure you are not suggesting that a pedophile attracted to members of the opposite sex is somehow more acceptable to our society.

Your statment makes it clear that you hold gay people in very low regard, perhaps even lower than pedophiles if one takes your statement as written. I would hope that whatever your opinions on gay people, you can recognize 2 things: 1) All pedophiles are terrible, and 2) Homosexuality and Pedophilia are 2 very very different things.
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Woodsy

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Quote from: mwewing on May 06, 2013, 02:12:24 AM
Quote from: Devil Doc on May 05, 2013, 10:29:06 PM
YA, he is just wrong, at least it ws girls and not guys, but still wrong.

I don't see what difference that makes. A pedophile is attracted to children. I don't see any difference whether the children are male or female. I am sure you are not suggesting that a pedophile attracted to members of the opposite sex is somehow more acceptable to our society.

Your statment makes it clear that you hold gay people in very low regard, perhaps even lower than pedophiles if one takes your statement as written. I would hope that whatever your opinions on gay people, you can recognize 2 things: 1) All pedophiles are terrible, and 2) Homosexuality and Pedophilia are 2 very very different things.


I would advise you to look up the definition of a pedophile.  It generally defines someone who prefers prepubescent children. 

A 15-17 year old as described in the many news stories this relates to is by no means a child.  It is still simply disgusting though that an adult would do such things with a teenage female, and I hope this sicko spends a looooong time in prison.

As far as homosexuality goes...  well... That's neither here nor there in this conversation.  Agree with your statements 1 and 2.





 

bflynn

Quote from: mwewing on May 06, 2013, 02:12:24 AMYour statment makes it clear that you hold gay people in very low regard, perhaps even lower than pedophiles if one takes your statement as written.

I don't believe that there was any assignment of priority - I read it to say that two wrongs are worse than one.  Yes, there are people who believe homosexuality is wrong based on religious beliefs.  Are you going to tell them they must change their religion?   Different topic.

Overall, I place this story in the category of "what was he thinking?!"  It's one thing for a girl to lie about being over 18, but he knew very well what he was doing.  Were one or both of the girls cadets?

Stonewall

I'll probably draw fire on this one, and I truly understand that pedophiles come in all shapes and sizes, but is it me or does everytime this happens, don't the accused actually look like they'd be pedophiles.

Maybe it's the mugshot, but the pic of the guy from Oakridge looks like someone that would make you say (to yourself, anyway), "man that guy DOES look like someone who would do something like that."

Serving since 1987.

Tim Day

Quote from: Stonewall on May 06, 2013, 10:29:23 AM
I'll probably draw fire on this one, and I truly understand that pedophiles come in all shapes and sizes, but is it me or does everytime this happens, don't the accused actually look like they'd be pedophiles.

No.
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Stonewall

Quote from: doodah5 on May 06, 2013, 11:15:24 AM
Quote from: Stonewall on May 06, 2013, 10:29:23 AM
I'll probably draw fire on this one, and I truly understand that pedophiles come in all shapes and sizes, but is it me or does everytime this happens, don't the accused actually look like they'd be pedophiles.

No.

LOL.  I meant, that it seems like "Monday morning quarterbacking", because when you look at someone after they've been convicted (or even charged) with such a claim, that we often say something like "you know, I can see it now."

I'm sure people disagree.  But twice in my life I've known people that I thought were capable of such things, and unfortunately I was right.
Serving since 1987.

huey

Quote from: a2capt on May 05, 2013, 06:13:14 PM
http://projects.registerguard.com/web/updates/28224930-46/sierakowski-program-civil-patrol-chanti.html.csp
So disgusting to society and to the org as well! Happening here and there, anyway...
Is there any lesson for the org's leadership and other seniors, in general?

Tim Day

Quote from: Stonewall on May 06, 2013, 11:22:36 AM
Quote from: doodah5 on May 06, 2013, 11:15:24 AM
Quote from: Stonewall on May 06, 2013, 10:29:23 AM
I'll probably draw fire on this one, and I truly understand that pedophiles come in all shapes and sizes, but is it me or does everytime this happens, don't the accused actually look like they'd be pedophiles.

No.

...But twice in my life I've known people that I thought were capable of such things, and unfortunately I was right.

Twice in your life is not statistically significant, and those of us who are responsible for protecting cadets should understand that the reality is that you cannot tell who is a predator by their outward appearance.

Many predators are narcissistic, and project an outwardly attractive appearance. They are masters of manipulation and they seek positions of power or influence from where they can target their next victim.

Those positions include leadership in youth groups, etc. That's why we have a CPP, not a visual recognition program.
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ol'fido

There is a yes and no answer about pedophiles looking like it in pictures. I used to work at a prison that had a sex offender unit. When these guys would come into the Health Care Unit, you could pretty much tell who they were. First, they just had a "look" about them. It wasn't anything consistent because these guys come in all shapes and sizes. It was just a creepy vibe they gave off. Second, you could tell who they were by the way the other inmates behaved toward them. It was like Moses parting the Red Sea when these guys came in. They were avoided and segregated in the waiting area.

The no answer is that these guys are real good at hiding who and what they are. If they weren't they wouldn't get away with it for so long in some cases. "Hey, Joe, couldn't have done that. He's a regular guy and anyway he doesn't look like a pedophile." I think a lot of it is that after they're caught they lose that facade that hid them for so long. Plus, when we see guys like this in mug shots we tend to put our own biases and judgements on them so they tend to "look" like a "molester" to us. It's just a psychological tool we use to wrap our brains around a horrible thing.

There is no excuse for this at any level. If you're 39, I don't care if she looks 22. If they are cadets, they are OFF LIMITS. There is no wiggle room here. If you use good judgement and follow CPPT, you will not find yourself in a situation where "she could be making it up" let alone where "I didn't mean for it to happen. It just did.".
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Stonewall

Quote from: NIN on May 06, 2013, 11:20:40 AM
I thinks its the mugshot, usually.

Yes, I agree with this.  And I was merely making an assumed correlation between the look of offenders (after the fact) and their crime.

Although I was only a cop for a short time in my life, I had responded to, investigated, and arrested men for sex crimes against children.  And like ol'fido said, there truly is a look about them that, once you're aware of their wrong doings, is different, yet common, among them.

As of today, there are 11 child sex offenders within 1 mile of my house. Yes ELEVEN!  There are men in their 70s and there is even a woman in her 30s.  They truly all look different, yet, they all have something common in appearance, perhaps it's their eyes.

I will say that 2 of them were convicted at age 18 while they had sex with someone that was older than 15.  I may think differently, but I don't place them in the same category as the 45 year old who violates a 15 year old.
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mwewing

Quote from: Woodsy on May 06, 2013, 08:27:57 AM
I would advise you to look up the definition of a pedophile.  It generally defines someone who prefers prepubescent children. 

Okay, then he is an ephebophile. As you stated, regardless of the terminology used, this is disgusting.

Quote from: bflynn on May 06, 2013, 08:48:14 AM
I don't believe that there was any assignment of priority - I read it to say that two wrongs are worse than one.

I just don't follow that logic. His statement implied that somehow an adult attracted to a minor of the opposite gender is less wrong than if the adult were attracted to minors of the same gender. If one accepts that comment at face value, then its actually the attraction to members of the same gender that is worse than being attracted to minors.

Quote from: bflynn on May 06, 2013, 08:48:14 AM
Yes, there are people who believe homosexuality is wrong based on religious beliefs.  Are you going to tell them they must change their religion?   Different topic.

It is a very different topic indeed, which is why I am somewhat troubled that the 2 were linked together. Everyone has a right to their opinions, and Devil Doc has certainly earned his rights the hard way. I just can't stand people continuously tying child molesters and homosexuals together. A child molester is a child molester. PERIOD.
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West Michigan Group (GLR-MI-703)

Tim Day

Quote from: Stonewall on May 06, 2013, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: NIN on May 06, 2013, 11:20:40 AM
I thinks its the mugshot, usually.

Yes, I agree with this.  And I was merely making an assumed correlation between the look of offenders (after the fact) and their crime.

Although I was only a cop for a short time in my life, I had responded to, investigated, and arrested men for sex crimes against children.  And like ol'fido said, there truly is a look about them that, once you're aware of their wrong doings, is different, yet common, among them.

As of today, there are 11 child sex offenders within 1 mile of my house. Yes ELEVEN!  There are men in their 70s and there is even a woman in her 30s.  They truly all look different, yet, they all have something common in appearance, perhaps it's their eyes.

I will say that 2 of them were convicted at age 18 while they had sex with someone that was older than 15.  I may think differently, but I don't place them in the same category as the 45 year old who violates a 15 year old.

11 convicted SOs. I work with SOs on a regular basis - everything from non-contact offenders to rape. And no, you can't necessarily tell from the eyes or anything else. Everytime people promulgate the myth that you can discern a predator by outward appearance, they put children at risk.

Sometimes you may be able to (and some of us have a more finely-tuned sense than others) - so trust your instincts. But most often you cannot tell. Even those of us with great discernment can be fooled by some of these predators - many operate at a genius level or higher and are extremely charismatic. That's why many children are victimized by family members, friends of family, or others in trusted positions of authority.

Often the predator has such a good reputation in the community that people can't believe it happened and will defend the SO or rationalize his or her actions.

The CPP wasn't established just because CAP thought it was a good idea, btw. It began because cadets were victimized by adults who otherwise seemed to be good CAP senior members. That's the lesson learned, and those of us who are involved with cadets (or any youth) should keep that well in mind.
Tim Day
Lt Col CAP
Prince William Composite Squadron Commander

bflynn

Quote from: mwewing on May 06, 2013, 12:46:18 PM
Quote from: bflynn on May 06, 2013, 08:48:14 AM
I don't believe that there was any assignment of priority - I read it to say that two wrongs are worse than one.

I just don't follow that logic. His statement implied that somehow an adult attracted to a minor of the opposite gender is less wrong than if the adult were attracted to minors of the same gender.

Isn't "more wrong" vs "less wrong" semantics?  It's wrong.  The question is whether it would be wrong for two reasons or just one. 

But again - I didn't read it the way you describe.