Is CAP going to continue as an Air Force auxiliary?

Started by skymaster, November 16, 2011, 12:09:29 AM

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jimmydeanno

Fact of the matter in DoD is that personnel costs are what are really costing them money:  salaries, healthcare, retirement benefits, disability payments, tuition benefits, training, etc. 
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lordmonar

Quote from: RADIOMAN015 on November 21, 2011, 03:19:45 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on November 21, 2011, 01:58:00 AM
Quote from: Fox2001 on November 20, 2011, 11:51:26 PM
Saving a dollar is a dollar...the magnitude of savings is not the point.  If CAP is removed as the Aux, CAP will evaporate.

And as for needing Congressional approval...that it so much easier than most people think.

BTW, F-16s don't cost $20mil...they cost a lot more. 

Palafox

Cutting $30M from the budget does NOT save the USAF $30M.....it will cost them 3-4 times that much to replace us.
That is the point.  Cutting funding to CAP does not cut the service demand that CAP meets.
Balancing the budget is easy....need to cut $350B......just stop building/repairing roads for a year or two......save the money....but now the roads are majorly screwed up and will cost you $400B to fix.

$30M to CAP......will cost the USAF something like $300M to replace.  Because someone will have to do the SAR...Helos and C-130 are not cheap.  We do the Green Flag mission for about 1/4 what the USAF way paying a contractor to do.

So......no....saving money is not saving money.......you have to look at why the money is being spent and how those cost are pushed off when you stop funding it.
Well as expected it looks fairly certain that  the "Super" Committee isn't going to be successful, so the automatic cuts will start in fiscal year 2013, with defense taking 50% of those cuts.

I would think that again EVERYONE in DOD is going to see a reduction in funding.   There will be some large cuts and some smaller cuts.  It could be a strict % applied to all programs.  It's likely that CAP is going to see a funding cut of some sort.  (I would  guess that the professional staff at National already has a revised FY2013 budget and pretty much knows where the cuts are going to come from).   Probably new aircraft & vehicle procurement will likely be the casualties.
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Maybe......we'll see.
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davedove

Quote from: jimmydeanno on November 21, 2011, 03:25:04 AM
Fact of the matter in DoD is that personnel costs are what are really costing them money:  salaries, healthcare, retirement benefits, disability payments, tuition benefits, training, etc.

As is true of all government branches.  Actually, the DoD has a lower personnel cost as a percentage of total budget than the rest of the government, although it's still high.  That's because DoD has all those fancy gadgets to buy and upkeep. 8)
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Eclipse

https://www.capnhq.gov/news/news05Dec11.htm
Cadet Funding Update: Funds for cadet orientation flights, new cadet kits, and cadet uniforms have been turned back on!

05 Dec 2011

- O-rides can commence as of 28 November

- Backlogged AE modules are now being shipped (2,500 packets total)

- New cadet kits are being shipped, starting with backlogs (800 binders total)

- Limited numbers of cadet uniform orders are being shipped

Any remaining cadet uniform orders will be held until further funds for purchases and shipping are released.

Next "emergency" please...

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