CAP Verifying Citizenship

[Airman De Ruiter]

So, for the CAPF 15(I think that's what it's called, the cadet application form) I need my Social Security number. I wasn't born in the U.S., but I am legally a citizen by way of my mother naturalizing to become a U.S. citizen. I was never issue a a Social Security Number an to get one I need to provide proof of citizenship. To get a Certificate of Citizenship, I need $600 for the fee. Given my means, I won't be able to have that for 4-6 months. I'd rather not lose a chance at 8-12 promotions, so can anyone think of a way to get CAP to get this beuracracy squared away a little more easier and cheaper(given that it is a government-affiliated organization)?

[Cool Mace]

I won't be of much help on this.

But you won't miss out on 8-12 promotions in 4-6 months.
With 2 years of JROTC, you may promote once per month up to C/2nd Lt. With Unit CC approval of course.
So you would miss out on max of 6.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Do you have a U.S. Passport?  That is a universally-accepted proof of citizenship.

[Airman De Ruiter]

I won't be of much help on this.

But you won't miss out on 8-12 promotions in 4-6 months.
With 2 years of JROTC, you may promote once per month up to C/2nd Lt. With Unit CC approval of course.
So you would miss out on max of 6.

That still makes me
That along with not being able to go to encampment, SAREX's, PT, plus the group of other "member" only activities.



And no, I don't have a passport.

[Майор Хаткевич]

I think you need the adults to deal with adult matters.

I joined CAP in May of 2003 via Green card. I was eligible for a SSN the same day my green card was issued (2001).

I bought my citizenship in 2010, having been in CAP for 7 years.

If you are a naturalized citizen by way of your mother, then you do not need to get a Certificate of Citizenship with a "$600 fee" as that is the cost of the whole naturalization process. Have the adults deal with this, and if necessary get the proper advice from a professional, because what you are writing does not compute. 

[Airman De Ruiter]

I have. I have had my squadron's SM's, my legal guardian, and all other resources I can. So far "the adults" have come to $600 conclusion. Now, I want to see if any alternatives exist that you guys can think of.

[Майор Хаткевич]

If you are a naturalized citizen by way of your mother, then you do not need to get a Certificate of Citizenship with a "$600 fee" as that is the cost of the whole naturalization process. Have the adults deal with this, and if necessary get the proper advice from a professional, because what you are writing does not compute.

How did you get to the US? Visa? Green card?

[Airman De Ruiter]

I don't have a Green Card or Visa. I am a minor and came in with my mother. My mother was a foreign national and then became a citizen. And I understand that I should get help from a professional of this field. I can't afford that. The best I can hope is that my self-lawyering will solve it or, in this case, that someone here will know something helpful.

[spaatzmom]

How does your parent do their tax return claiming you as a dependent without a SSN for you?  For the last twenty years or so a SSN has been required for each child listed on a return.  If you are a ward of the court and they are aware of your mothers naturalization, then the court appointed liaison for you should have filed the proper paperwork already.  If they have not done so, how are you able to partake of any services to include schooling and medical?

Regardless, don't ask here where few if any will know.  Go straight to the only real source and call Social Security themselves.

[Airman De Ruiter]

My mother hasn't claimed me on her taxes. I haven't necessarily lived with her my whole life. Either way, I now have a legal guardian(who is a natural citizen) that has done her best to figure this out. After calling SS, they can't do anything without proof of citizenship. They have no record of me. I have no papers except for transcripts and a certified foreign birth certificate.

And coming here is my only option. As I've said, I'm exhausting all free options.


Halp.
Someone's got to have some legal or anecdotal experience with this.

[Eclipse]

How did you join AFJROTC?

http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=4650

http://www.au.af.mil/au/holmcenter/AFJROTC/Brochure.asp

You have to be a citizen or lawfully admitted.

[Майор Хаткевич]

I don't have a Green Card or Visa. I am a minor and came in with my mother. My mother was a foreign national and then became a citizen. And I understand that I should get help from a professional of this field. I can't afford that. The best I can hope is that my self-lawyering will solve it or, in this case, that someone here will know something helpful.

I came here as a minor. I had a visa. You have to have some sort of visa status to be here legally, which, if it is a permanent basis visa, you should be able to get a SSN. Citizenship, again, is not a pre-requisite for a SSN. On citizenship, if your parent/legal guardian (who has to be a legal permanent guardian), became a citizen during your time here, then you would get a citizenship certificate at the same time. Filing for it is required, otherwise, you are here without a status.

[Devil Doc]

usafaux2004 Your a Foreigner!!! Knew there was something fishy about you 

BTW Airman, do you have a Drivers License? School ID? ID Card? If not, how in the heck do you not get deported without a VISA, Green Card etc? Something is either wrong with the system, or your lucky.

[Airman De Ruiter]

By signing up for the course during registration. I am very fully an official Cadet in AFJROTC. I have rank, ribbons, badges, chords, and press appearances on behalf of my squadron. They don't actually verify citizenship. Neither did they in my old NJROTC battalion.




As for coming here without a visa. I did. Regardless of what might be required, it happened. And I was not issued a Certificate of Citizenship upon her naturalization.

usafaux2004 Your a Foreigner!!! Knew there was something fishy about you 

BTW Airman, do you have a Drivers License? School ID? ID Card? If not, how in the heck do you not get deported without a VISA, Green Card etc? Something is either wrong with the system, or your lucky.

I don't have anything official, just a school I.D. The school requested an SS, they didn't get one.

[CAP4117]

Airman, I think it would be a good idea to not post anything else here about this matter. You don't want all of this floating around in public, and we really aren't equipped to help you with this sort of thing (unless someone here is secretly an immigration lawyer). I know finances are an issue, but I think you need to do your best to contact some sort of professional about this. Be persistent - I'm sure there is someone you can talk to.

[Devil Doc]

INS INS!!!! Naa Just Kidding.

[Cliff_Chambliss]

Something here does not pass the smell test.   My mother brought me to the USA as a small child.  Even though my Father was a US Citizen and already married to my Mother she and I both had "Green Cards".  Taking the Green Card to the local Social Security Office I had my SS Card in less than 30 minutes.

Have you actually asked your mother or are you just assuming?

[Airman De Ruiter]

I have verified all this. I have gone through all the channels I can. My father and mother were both European. My father passed before my birth. My
Mother moved to the U.S. when I was 2. She later got married to an American police officer and got her citizenship. She never filed for anything for me not was I issued anything. The only way I see is to pay the $600 for the Certificate of Citizenship. The only reason I need that is to get my SSN. I have no papers, except for my certified birth certificate. I am legally a citizen, I just have no proof. All I need is that SSN and I'm golden. Is there any way that CAP, since it's government-affiliated, can get the paperwork straightened out? $600 is slightly...steep.

[cap235629]

I have verified all this. I have gone through all the channels I can. My father and mother were both European. My father passed before my birth. My
Mother moved to the U.S. when I was 2. She later got married to an American police officer and got her citizenship. She never filed for anything for me not was I issued anything. The only way I see is to pay the $600 for the Certificate of Citizenship. The only reason I need that is to get my SSN. I have no papers, except for my certified birth certificate. I am legally a citizen, I just have no proof. All I need is that SSN and I'm golden. Is there any way that CAP, since it's government-affiliated, can get the paperwork straightened out? $600 is slightly...steep.

UMMMM, Hate to break it to you, you are NOT a US citizen.  At the time of your birth both of your parents were citizens of another country, presumably the country of your birth.  Just because your mother subsequently became a citizen has no bearing on YOUR status.  If one of your parents was a US citizen at the time of your birth, you could be a citizen by registering a foreign birth to a US national. 

I would start saving cans if I were you and get that $600 as fast as you can.  College is right around the corner and you are in for a rude awakening

[CAP4117]

She never filed for anything for me not was I issued anything. [...] I have no papers, except for my certified birth certificate.

This is exactly the type of thing you shouldn't be posting.
I really don't think this is something CAP can help you with. You say you have gone through all the channels. I highly doubt that is the case - do some more searching.