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Started by Archer, March 08, 2014, 03:46:08 AM

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GroundHawg

Quote from: Offutteer on March 10, 2014, 03:23:45 PM
Who does Texas A&M use to get their uniforms?  Aren't they the same pink and green?

I was thinking the same thing. The Corp of Cadets uniforms minus the knee high Cav boots would look amazing.

It will never happen, but CAP would be a lot cooler if it did (said in a Wooderson voice)

Майор Хаткевич



Just don't do the baggy pants...




Panache

Quote from: usafaux2004 on March 11, 2014, 03:56:30 AM

Just don't do the baggy pants...

"Hi?  Vanguard?  Yes, I was wondering if you carry jodhpurs."

Майор Хаткевич

I knew there was a term for it...lets leave that in the pre-1950s era.

AlphaSigOU

Not to worry... only seniors in the Corps of Cadets at TAMU are extended the privilege of wearing cavalry boots (with spurs!) and jodhpurs. And the boots ain't cheap, either!
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GroundHawg

Is that Cadet wearing a BSA Eagle Scout medal?

MSG Mac

Quote from: GroundHawg on March 12, 2014, 12:27:38 AM
Is that Cadet wearing a BSA Eagle Scout medal?

Sure looks like one
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It is authorized:


TarRiverRat

Texas A&M Corps of Cadets Pinks and Greens are called Midnights and look very sharp.  Not sure who they get their uniforms from but would be sharp looking for us to wear and would give us a historical link to our past.  I do 13th Air Force from WWII Pacific Theater and the uniforms for reenactors are to cost prohibitive for the average Senior Member.  Would still make a nice dress uniform though.  Would love to know the cost of the CoC Midnights.  The primary dress uniform from what I have seen is straight leg and standard looking oxfords from what I can tell.  They also wear khakis as well.
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Flying Pig

If you are wearing that get up.... you better be on a horse

Private Investigator

Quote from: Flying Pig on March 12, 2014, 04:56:20 PM
If you are wearing that get up.... you better be on a horse

I am glad I own a horse otherwise I will be confused for a Village People.   8)

Mitchell 1969

Quote from: TarRiverRat on March 12, 2014, 02:08:10 AM
Texas A&M Corps of Cadets Pinks and Greens are called Midnights and look very sharp.  Not sure who they get their uniforms from but would be sharp looking for us to wear and would give us a historical link to our past.  I do 13th Air Force from WWII Pacific Theater and the uniforms for reenactors are to cost prohibitive for the average Senior Member.  Would still make a nice dress uniform though.  Would love to know the cost of the CoC Midnights.  The primary dress uniform from what I have seen is straight leg and standard looking oxfords from what I can tell.  They also wear khakis as well.

When people tout "pinks and greens" as a supposed CAP uniform solution, they do so while wearing blinders. Specifically, that uniform combination is not now and never was intended as a year-round uniform. It would be tough to have to invest in it, as nice as it is, only to get a 3-4-6 month wearing period.

The summer-weight alternatives to that uniform were either a tan version of the coat and trousers, or a khaki uniform. Neither looks like "pinks and greens," so that look is lost.
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CAP has been bery, bery good to me.

SunDog

I'm just old enough to have worn Khaki 1505's in the Air Force, very briefly.   You looked like an unmade bed about five minutes after putting them on. Starched or not, if I recall. They were comfy, and light weight enough.

If you weren't wearing a hat, you looked like a janitor. With a hat, you looked like a crossing guard or milkman.

SarDragon

Quote from: SunDog on March 13, 2014, 10:04:41 PM
I'm just old enough to have worn Khaki 1505's in the Air Force, very briefly.   You looked like an unmade bed about five minutes after putting them on. Starched or not, if I recall. They were comfy, and light weight enough.

If you weren't wearing a hat, you looked like a janitor. With a hat, you looked like a crossing guard or milkman.

Amen to that. I wore those things, too. No fun at all.
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Shuman 14

Quote from: abdsp51 on March 10, 2014, 04:07:32 AM
Still on a khaki kick I see.  You do realize that it is not cost effective right and this has been pointed out to you on multiple occasions...

Oh my, in a post about "Pinks and Greens", a uniform in two shades of... (wait for it)... khaki, I'm off base.  ::)

I just showed you above that there are currently available khaki uniforms, that with minimal modification, could be used for a proposed khaki corporate uniform at comparable prices to the top end of the current grey/white uniform.

Now if you want to buy uniforms at the low end of the scale for grey/white and look like a rag-a-muffin, then you're right it's not cost effective.  ::)
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
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Shuman 14

Quote from: SarDragon on March 13, 2014, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: SunDog on March 13, 2014, 10:04:41 PM
I'm just old enough to have worn Khaki 1505's in the Air Force, very briefly.   You looked like an unmade bed about five minutes after putting them on. Starched or not, if I recall. They were comfy, and light weight enough.

If you weren't wearing a hat, you looked like a janitor. With a hat, you looked like a crossing guard or milkman.

Amen to that. I wore those things, too. No fun at all.

You gentlemen do realize that textile manufacturing has come a long way since the early 1970's right?

I don't think ANYONE is talking about going back to the original Khaki 1505's, but a modern fabric cut in the style of the old 1505's.

I'll use my police uniform as an example.

Visually it looks exactly the same as the wool gaberdine blend police dress/service uniforms of the 1950's thru the 1970's but they are made out of modern poly-rayon blend fabric.

They are durable, light,  and breathable. Machine wash/dry and if you take them out a little damp and hang them up, you'll NEVER need to iron them.

Strong as BDU's yet sharp as a dress uniform.

Order them in khaki and you'd be good to go.
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
INARNG: 1992 - 1993, 1998 - 2000      Active Army: 2003 - 2005                                       USCGAux: 2004 - Present

Panache

Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on March 13, 2014, 07:21:49 PM
When people tout "pinks and greens" as a supposed CAP uniform solution, they do so while wearing blinders. Specifically, that uniform combination is not now and never was intended as a year-round uniform. It would be tough to have to invest in it, as nice as it is, only to get a 3-4-6 month wearing period.

The summer-weight alternatives to that uniform were either a tan version of the coat and trousers, or a khaki uniform. Neither looks like "pinks and greens," so that look is lost.

Back in the WWII era, sure.  But, as shuman14 pointed out above, that is a non-issue with modern fabrics.

Make the "pinks & greens" with the same material that is used to make modern USAF blues and service coat, and you have a year-round solution.

Shuman 14

Quote from: Panache on March 14, 2014, 03:30:10 AM
Quote from: Mitchell 1969 on March 13, 2014, 07:21:49 PM
When people tout "pinks and greens" as a supposed CAP uniform solution, they do so while wearing blinders. Specifically, that uniform combination is not now and never was intended as a year-round uniform. It would be tough to have to invest in it, as nice as it is, only to get a 3-4-6 month wearing period.

The summer-weight alternatives to that uniform were either a tan version of the coat and trousers, or a khaki uniform. Neither looks like "pinks and greens," so that look is lost.

Back in the WWII era, sure.  But, as shuman14 pointed out above, that is a non-issue with modern fabrics.

Make the "pinks & greens" with the same material that is used to make modern USAF blues and service coat, and you have a year-round solution.

Exactly!
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
INARNG: 1992 - 1993, 1998 - 2000      Active Army: 2003 - 2005                                       USCGAux: 2004 - Present

SunDog

Quote from: shuman14 on March 14, 2014, 02:55:06 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on March 13, 2014, 10:52:16 PM
Quote from: SunDog on March 13, 2014, 10:04:41 PM
I'm just old enough to have worn Khaki 1505's in the Air Force, very briefly.   You looked like an unmade bed about five minutes after putting them on. Starched or not, if I recall. They were comfy, and light weight enough.

If you weren't wearing a hat, you looked like a janitor. With a hat, you looked like a crossing guard or milkman.


Amen to that. I wore those things, too. No fun at all.

You gentlemen do realize that textile manufacturing has come a long way since the early 1970's right?

I don't think ANYONE is talking about going back to the original Khaki 1505's, but a modern fabric cut in the style of the old 1505's.

I'll use my police uniform as an example.

Visually it looks exactly the same as the wool gaberdine blend police dress/service uniforms of the 1950's thru the 1970's but they are made out of modern poly-rayon blend fabric.

They are durable, light,  and breathable. Machine wash/dry and if you take them out a little damp and hang them up, you'll NEVER need to iron them.

Strong as BDU's yet sharp as a dress uniform.

Order them in khaki and you'd be good to go.

:)

I know fabric maanufacture has gone a long way, mostly in the direction of south asia. But sure, new fabrics that hold up (and won't melt on me in a fire), I'm in, all for it.