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Title: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major Carrales on January 17, 2007, 06:25:31 AM
I guess this is going to be one of those threads that begins with pure opinion and hopefully reaches consensus.

Who is the CAP Posterboy?

I imagine your answers could vary from a single individual to an group of persons.  Also, one might explore who "should" be the posterboy of CAP.

Have at it...
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: afgeo4 on January 17, 2007, 06:36:11 AM
Col Rick Greenhut, current head of homeland security for NHQ, formerly the NER CC, and NYWG CC before that.

Was also a pilot on 9/11 missions in NYC.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major Carrales on January 17, 2007, 06:40:56 AM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 17, 2007, 06:36:11 AM
Col Rick Greenhut, current head of homeland security for NHQ, formerly the NER CC, and NYWG CC before that.

Was also a pilot on 9/11 missions in NYC.

(http://www.ner.cap.gov/images/greenhut_official.jpg)


From the Northeast Region webpage...
QuoteRichard Greenhut was already a veteran pilot and FAA Safety Counselor when he joined CAP's New York City Group in 1990. After serving as New York Wing commander, Colonel Greenhut took over the Northeast Region shortly before the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. Colonel Greenhut had a leading role in the CAP's relief effort, and also flew many sorties himself. Since then, he has been CAP's leading spokeman on Homeland Security. Upon stepping down as Northeast Region Commander in August of 2005, he was named CAP's National Director of Homeland Security.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on January 17, 2007, 02:02:11 PM
How about that guy who used to command the LA Wing?  Good looking, the very image of the Zipper-Suited Sun God, and he has a cool pilot name... "Rock."  I forget his last name.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: capchiro on January 17, 2007, 02:09:15 PM
Rock would be a great poster boy.  He had some good photos in the Volunteer as I recall.  He is also an attorney, I believe.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Hartley on January 17, 2007, 02:31:52 PM
Hi Y'all,

  Rock Palermo is indeed much better looking than Col. Greenhut (and I doubt Rick would disagree).  I don't think he was ever CC of LAWG, but he has been involved with CAP at high levels in the ES and legal programs for a long time.  He is currently the SWR legal officer.

Hartley

p.s. "Zipper-suited SUN god"? - I thought it was "Zipper-suited SKY god"..
HJG
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Pylon on January 17, 2007, 02:43:44 PM
CAP's "Everyday Hero" - Chaplain Lt Col Van Don Williams

http://civilairpatrolnhq.sitestream.com/VanDon.vsml


(http://www.ner.cap.gov/staff/getImage.php?personid=38)
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on January 17, 2007, 03:09:25 PM
Quote from: Hartley on January 17, 2007, 02:31:52 PM
Hi Y'all,

  Rock Palermo is indeed much better looking than Col. Greenhut (and I doubt Rick would disagree).  I don't think he was ever CC of LAWG, but he has been involved with CAP at high levels in the ES and legal programs for a long time.  He is currently the SWR legal officer.

Hartley

p.s. "Zipper-suited SUN god"? - I thought it was "Zipper-suited SKY god"..
HJG

Has to be SUN god for me.  Right now I'm not night current.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on January 17, 2007, 03:10:54 PM
Quote from: capchiro on January 17, 2007, 02:09:15 PM
Rock would be a great poster boy.  He had some good photos in the Volunteer as I recall.  He is also an attorney, I believe.

I knew he was an attorney, but if we can have lieutenants with Down's Syndrome, I think we have to accept lawyers, too.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Pace on January 17, 2007, 04:26:16 PM
Col Rock Palermo has been the LAWG Legal Officer, SWR Legal Officer, and the National Legal Officer (how he got his birds).  He never commanded the LAWG, but if he ever did I'd come back to LAWG (or whatever unit he was commanding) in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major Carrales on January 17, 2007, 04:39:27 PM
(http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/060322-F-0000J-145.jpg)
From Air Force Link...
QuoteDick Gremillion, Army Lt. Gen. Russel L. Honori and Civil Air Patrol Col. Rock Palermo discuss hurricane relief efforts at the operations center in Lake Charles, La. After Hurricane Rita, Colonel Palermo spent nearly three weeks directing local emergency operations in his hometown of Lake Charles. He was drafted as operations section chief and later deputy director because of his past disaster management experience. (U.S. Air Force photo/Tom R. Malmay Jr.)   


(http://www.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/web/060322-F-0000J-174.JPG)

From Air Force Link...
QuoteCivil Air Patrol Col. Rock Palermo, right, and members of the 82nd Airborne, participate in a conference call with the National Weather Service as Hurricane Rita makes landfall. After Hurricane Rita, Colonel Palermo spent nearly three weeks directing local emergency operations in his hometown of Lake Charles. He was drafted as operations section chief and later deputy director because of his past disaster management experience. (U.S. Air Force photo/Tom R. Malmay Jr.)
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Al Sayre on January 17, 2007, 05:11:17 PM
Quote from: dcpacemaker on January 17, 2007, 04:26:16 PM
Col Rock Palermo has been the LAWG Legal Officer, SWR Legal Officer, and the National Legal Officer (how he got his birds).  He never commanded the LAWG, but if he ever did I'd come back to LAWG (or whatever unit he was commanding) in a heartbeat.

I feel so used... :'(

:D
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Pace on January 17, 2007, 05:30:31 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 17, 2007, 05:11:17 PM

I feel so used... :'(

:D
No need to worry.  I doubt Rock has any interest in command, otherwise he would be.  Plus even if he was the wing king, I'd still have the local squadrons to deal with (not gonna happen).
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: flyerthom on January 17, 2007, 06:11:46 PM
Lt. Col Keith Zuegel

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16660845/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16660845/)

In the Washington Post and MSNBC today.

(either him or the first CAP person to discover E-bay...)


Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: mikeylikey on January 17, 2007, 06:33:53 PM
Why do we need a posterboy?  Who cares!  Consensous at NHQ is PINEDA anyway.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on January 17, 2007, 08:44:57 PM
Mikey is miffed because nobody mentioned him.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major_Chuck on January 17, 2007, 08:49:23 PM
Back in the 50's or early 60's Jerry Lewis was a National Recruiting Spokesman or something to that effect for CAP.  I saw a picture of the back of a magazine on E-Bay about two years ago of him promoting CAP.  I haven't been able to find it since.

My vote is for Jerry Lewis.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major Carrales on January 17, 2007, 09:22:21 PM
Quote from: CAP Safety Dude on January 17, 2007, 08:49:23 PM
Back in the 50's or early 60's Jerry Lewis was a National Recruiting Spokesman or something to that effect for CAP.  I saw a picture of the back of a magazine on E-Bay about two years ago of him promoting CAP.  I haven't been able to find it since.

My vote is for Jerry Lewis.


Knock Yourself out, Chuck...
http://mhuchette.albumpost.com/Historical (http://mhuchette.albumpost.com/Historical)

(http://mhuchette.albumpost.com//albums/Historical/CAP6.sized.jpg)
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Chris Jacobs on January 17, 2007, 09:53:19 PM
Can i vote for my self.  I'm not all that good lookin but i would vote for me.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on January 17, 2007, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: CAP Safety Dude on January 17, 2007, 08:49:23 PM
Back in the 50's or early 60's Jerry Lewis was a National Recruiting Spokesman or something to that effect for CAP.  I saw a picture of the back of a magazine on E-Bay about two years ago of him promoting CAP.  I haven't been able to find it since.

My vote is for Jerry Lewis.

Have you seen Jerry Lewis lately?
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major Carrales on January 17, 2007, 10:05:07 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on January 17, 2007, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: CAP Safety Dude on January 17, 2007, 08:49:23 PM
Back in the 50's or early 60's Jerry Lewis was a National Recruiting Spokesman or something to that effect for CAP.  I saw a picture of the back of a magazine on E-Bay about two years ago of him promoting CAP.  I haven't been able to find it since.

My vote is for Jerry Lewis.

Have you seen Jerry Lewis lately?

Yes he  is visible, but we don't get to close because of the intense gravitation fields.  Sorry, Star Fleet regulations~

In any case all joking aside, would any celebrity do that today for CAP?  Was Jerry Lewis a paid "Recruiter-at-Large" or was he a member?  Do we have any celebrity that is in CAP that would step up to the plate?

Jerry Sienfeld?  Jerry Siller?
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Al Sayre on January 17, 2007, 10:08:35 PM
How about Harrison Ford?  He's a Patron Member
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major Carrales on January 17, 2007, 10:20:23 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 17, 2007, 10:08:35 PM
How about Harrison Ford?  He's a Patron Member

From Wikipedia...
QuoteFord keeps his aircraft at the Santa Monica Airport, though the Bell 407 is often kept and flown in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, and has been used by the actor in two mountain rescues during the actor's assigned duty time assisting the Civil Air Patrol. On one of the rescues Ford recovered a hiker who had become lost and disoriented. She boarded Ford's Bell 407 and promptly vomited into one of the rescuers' caps (she says it was not Ford's cap), unaware of who the pilot was until much later.

Sorry, but according to these sources Harrison Ford is a "fighting" CAP officer and far too valuable a member to be turned into a mere "posterboy."  He is attached to CAPNHQ if my inquiries are correct.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: SarDragon on January 17, 2007, 10:26:52 PM
I actually have one of those pamphlets.

As for Jerry's weight, he was on prescription steroids for a while, but since he's been off them, his weight has come way down. He'll be 81 this year, so cut him a little slack.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Al Sayre on January 17, 2007, 10:27:05 PM
That just makes him all the better for a spokesperson.  I'm not saying to limit him to being a posterboy, but see if he'd do a few print ad's and a commercial or two.  Probably would do more for recruiting than the nascar idea...YMMV
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major Carrales on January 17, 2007, 10:28:44 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on January 17, 2007, 10:26:52 PM
I actually have one of those pamphlets.

As for Jerry's weight, he was on prescription steroids for a while, but since he's been off them, his weight has come way down. He'll be 81 this year, so cut him a little slack.

You are correct, I should be more sensative.  I just couldn't resist.  Please accept my retraction.  :'(
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: SarDragon on January 17, 2007, 10:31:03 PM
Regarding Harrison Ford - there is a Harrison B. Ford attached to the NHQ Patron SQ, but IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000148/bio) says that he has no middle name.

Quote from: IMDbHe was billed as Harrison J. Ford until 1970 for less confusion between he and silent-screen actor Harrison Ford. He actually has no middle name.

YMMV.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major Carrales on January 17, 2007, 10:32:31 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on January 17, 2007, 10:31:03 PM
Regarding Harrison Ford - there is a Harrison B. Ford attached to the NHQ Patron SQ, but IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000148/bio) says that he has no middle name.

Quote from: IMDbHe was billed as Harrison J. Ford until 1970 for less confusion between he and silent-screen actor Harrison Ford. He actually has no middle name.

Could this be the same guy? Was there only one listed?
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: pixelwonk on January 17, 2007, 10:32:45 PM
Whats wrong with you people?  It's no question that Cadet Ken (http://level2.cap.gov/documents/Calendar_for_Ken.pdf) is the ultimate CAP posterboyloon

Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major Carrales on January 17, 2007, 10:35:26 PM
Quote from: tedda on January 17, 2007, 10:32:45 PM
Whats wrong with you people?  It's no question that Cadet Ken (http://level2.cap.gov/documents/Calendar_for_Ken.pdf) is the ultimate CAP posterboyloon



Cadet Ken is a rather cheeky fellow.  And he's neither really a poster nor a boy?

In a related manner...

How about a postergirl?  Or does that sound too muck like a pin-up?  Isn't a USAF NCO being expelled from the USAF for being a pin-up?
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: SarDragon on January 17, 2007, 10:45:08 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on January 17, 2007, 10:32:31 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on January 17, 2007, 10:31:03 PM
Regarding Harrison Ford - there is a Harrison B. Ford attached to the NHQ Patron SQ, but IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000148/bio) says that he has no middle name.

Quote from: IMDbHe was billed as Harrison J. Ford until 1970 for less confusion between he and silent-screen actor Harrison Ford. He actually has no middle name.

Could this be the same guy?

Maybe.

Quote from: Major CarralesWas there only one listed?

Only one.

Given his political leanings, it could go either way - member or not a member.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major_Chuck on January 18, 2007, 12:26:39 AM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on January 17, 2007, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: CAP Safety Dude on January 17, 2007, 08:49:23 PM
Back in the 50's or early 60's Jerry Lewis was a National Recruiting Spokesman or something to that effect for CAP.  I saw a picture of the back of a magazine on E-Bay about two years ago of him promoting CAP.  I haven't been able to find it since.

My vote is for Jerry Lewis.

Have you seen Jerry Lewis lately?

Looks better than he did when he was on steroids.  Still my vote is for Jerry Lewis....and  he should get the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his work with MD.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major_Chuck on January 18, 2007, 12:28:38 AM
I know!  Ashton Lewis and his Race Car!
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: alexalvarez on January 18, 2007, 01:04:37 AM
Wow! That 1961 CAP pamphlet brought back alot of memories. I use to have a uniform like the one pictured.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on January 18, 2007, 02:30:37 AM
How does Harrison Ford get to use his member-owned helicopter on CAP missions?
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on January 18, 2007, 02:31:44 AM
Quote from: alexalvarez on January 18, 2007, 01:04:37 AM
Wow! That 1961 CAP pamphlet brought back alot of memories. I use to have a uniform like the one pictured.

Back in the day when you had to be 14 to join!  Cadets were a lot tougher then.  No need for Cadet Protection.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major Carrales on January 18, 2007, 03:11:54 PM
Quote from: CAP Safety Dude on January 18, 2007, 12:26:39 AM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on January 17, 2007, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: CAP Safety Dude on January 17, 2007, 08:49:23 PM
Back in the 50's or early 60's Jerry Lewis was a National Recruiting Spokesman or something to that effect for CAP.  I saw a picture of the back of a magazine on E-Bay about two years ago of him promoting CAP.  I haven't been able to find it since.

My vote is for Jerry Lewis.

Have you seen Jerry Lewis lately?

Looks better than he did when he was on steroids.  Still my vote is for Jerry Lewis....and  he should get the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his work with MD.

I agree, Jerry Lewis is one of the world biggest contributors to the Medical community.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: ColonelJack on January 19, 2007, 12:37:41 AM
I wish people would look past the silly talking and pratfalls and realize what a real treasure we have in Jerry Lewis.  If anyone deserved recognition for his life's work, it's Mr. Lewis.

For 24 years, I answered telephones (and, later, ran pledge centers) for the Muscular Dystrophy Association during Labor Day weekend, and while I never had the privilege of meeting Mr. Lewis, I am very familiar with his work.  And, of course, with his real work.  The man's simply funny.

And a great humanitarian.

Your mileage may vary (and no, I am not from France!).

Jack
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Major_Chuck on January 19, 2007, 01:24:26 AM
Ditto.

Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Chappie on January 19, 2007, 02:03:06 AM
Quote from: ColonelJack on January 19, 2007, 12:37:41 AM
I wish people would look past the silly talking and pratfalls and realize what a real treasure we have in Jerry Lewis.  If anyone deserved recognition for his life's work, it's Mr. Lewis.

For 24 years, I answered telephones (and, later, ran pledge centers) for the Muscular Dystrophy Association during Labor Day weekend, and while I never had the privilege of meeting Mr. Lewis, I am very familiar with his work.  And, of course, with his real work.  The man's simply funny.

And a great humanitarian.

Your mileage may vary (and no, I am not from France!).

Jack

No argument from me.  Several years ago we had neighbors.  One of their children was a "Jerry's Kid" and received assistance.   In a day and age when people are sceptical as to where the money goes, etc., I have always contributed to MDA because of their work.

(Not from France either -- a native Californian  ;D)
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: SarDragon on January 19, 2007, 10:40:32 AM
My sweetie used to work for MDA, and we, either individually or collectively, have been doing telethons off and on since 1986.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: swilliams on January 30, 2007, 10:26:27 PM
Not sure
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 04:16:49 PM
Ok, so can we all agree that Jerry Lewis is the best spokesperson we can come up with for the Civil Air Patrol in the 21st Century?
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Lancer on January 31, 2007, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 04:16:49 PM
Ok, so can we all agree that Jerry Lewis is the best spokesperson we can come up with for the Civil Air Patrol in the 21st Century?

AFAIC, if anyone should be a 21st Century 'posterboy' (so to speak) for CAP, my vote goes to Maj. Nicole Malachowski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Malachowski), pilot of Thunderbird 3.


edited to correct rank. - Mark
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 04:55:41 PM
Quote from: mlcurtis69 on January 31, 2007, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 04:16:49 PM
Ok, so can we all agree that Jerry Lewis is the best spokesperson we can come up with for the Civil Air Patrol in the 21st Century?

AFAIC, if anyone should be a 21st Century 'posterboy' (so to speak) for CAP, my vote goes to Capt. Nicole Malachowski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Malachowski), pilot of Thunderbird 3.

She's a poster girl for USAF already and not a CAP member... although she does look good on posters.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Al Sayre on January 31, 2007, 04:59:39 PM
She is a former Cadet, and would make an excellent spokesperson for CAP.  She spent about an hour talking to the Cadets at the Columbus AFB airshow last year.  I've got some good pictures of her with my daughter and the other Cadets.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 31, 2007, 04:59:39 PM
She is a former Cadet, and would make an excellent spokesperson for CAP.  She spent about an hour talking to the Cadets at the Columbus AFB airshow last year.  I've got some good pictures of her with my daughter and the other Cadets.
Spokesperson work is usually done best by someone who's a member already or you run into a situation like:

"Join such and such! They're great!"
- "How long have you been a member of such and such?"
"Oh, I'm not a member, I just want you to join."
- "Oh yeah, hold on, lemme take out my checkbook... PSYCH!"

or situation like:
"Join such and such! They're great!"
- "How long have you been a member of such and such?"
"Oh, I used to be a cadet of such and such and look at me now! I'm a combat pilot!"
- "Great, so if my daughter joins such and such she'll go into the military? I don't think so!"
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: MIKE on January 31, 2007, 05:04:48 PM
Quote from: mlcurtis69 on January 31, 2007, 04:43:57 PM
AFAIC, if anyone should be a 21st Century 'posterboy' (so to speak) for CAP, my vote goes to Capt. Nicole Malachowski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Malachowski), pilot of Thunderbird 3.

IIRC she is a Major now... from the last picture I saw.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 05:06:40 PM
Anyone know of a Spaatz cadet who is a prominent member of CAP today? At NHQ level perhaps?
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: dogden on January 31, 2007, 05:07:45 PM
BTW Nicole Malachowski is now a Major, has been since at least summer of 2006. She is a great spokeswoman for CAP and enjoys being around cadets. I had the great pleasure of getting Mary Feik and her together at the Hill AFB airshow 2006, the powers that be had to practically pull them apart from telling stories and talking. It was a great time to see such wonderful CAP type women having a good time.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: MIKE on January 31, 2007, 05:09:49 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 05:06:40 PM
Anyone know of a Spaatz cadet who is a prominent member of CAP today? At NHQ level perhaps?

Curt LaFond IIRC.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Lancer on January 31, 2007, 05:12:14 PM
Quote from: MIKE on January 31, 2007, 05:04:48 PM
Quote from: mlcurtis69 on January 31, 2007, 04:43:57 PM
AFAIC, if anyone should be a 21st Century 'posterboy' (so to speak) for CAP, my vote goes to Capt. Nicole Malachowski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Malachowski), pilot of Thunderbird 3.

IIRC she is a Major now... from the last piture I saw.

Doh, my bad.  ;D

And to address those that say because she's not an active member she can't represent CAP, I say 'Phooey'. She's a product of the CAP program, she's very proud of her time in CAP and gives her time greatly when she can, talking to CAP cadets.  Besides what's to say we can't bestow an honorary membership upon her anyways?
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 05:20:25 PM
Quote from: mlcurtis69 on January 31, 2007, 05:12:14 PM
Quote from: MIKE on January 31, 2007, 05:04:48 PM
Quote from: mlcurtis69 on January 31, 2007, 04:43:57 PM
AFAIC, if anyone should be a 21st Century 'posterboy' (so to speak) for CAP, my vote goes to Capt. Nicole Malachowski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Malachowski), pilot of Thunderbird 3.

IIRC she is a Major now... from the last piture I saw.

Doh, my bad.  ;D

And to address those that say because she's not an active member she can't represent CAP, I say 'Phooey'. She's a product of the CAP program, she's very proud of her time in CAP and gives her time greatly when she can, talking to CAP cadets.  Besides what's to say we can't bestow an honorary membership upon her anyways?
Well... if we had to bestow one onto her, we'd have to bestow one onto all the other Thunderbirds. They are a team. While we're at it, what about that female A-10 pilot who was able to fly her wrecked and shot up bird safely back to base in Iraq? Shouldn't she get one? She was a CAP cadet. How about every pilot who was a CAP cadet? How about every pilot who was a CAP cadet in ALL of the military? Well, why would we leave out non-rated officers? Lets give out memberships to everyone who was a CAP cadet and is now in the Military.

Wait, they get paid a very good amount of money. They could probably afford their memberships if they wanted to be members. They probably don't want to be members because they have no time to devote to our organization and don't want to let us down. That's probably it.

As far as Maj Malachowski goes... she is a Thunderbird, and thus a recruiter and postergirl for the USAF. She cannot be an official postgirl for CAP at the same time as we are different organizations with different missions. Perhaps after she's done with her tour with the 'Birds... Since she was the first female and all... Although I think her records as a cadet would need to be reviewed. We don't know if she was such an outstanding member of CAP in her time.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Lancer on January 31, 2007, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 05:20:25 PM
Well... if we had to bestow one onto her, we'd have to bestow one onto all the other Thunderbirds. They are a team. While we're at it, what about that female A-10 pilot who was able to fly her wrecked and shot up bird safely back to base in Iraq? Shouldn't she get one? She was a CAP cadet. How about every pilot who was a CAP cadet? How about every pilot who was a CAP cadet in ALL of the military? Well, why would we leave out non-rated officers? Lets give out memberships to everyone who was a CAP cadet and is now in the Military.

Wait, they get paid a very good amount of money. They could probably afford their memberships if they wanted to be members. They probably don't want to be members because they have no time to devote to our organization and don't want to let us down. That's probably it.

As far as Maj Malachowski goes... she is a Thunderbird, and thus a recruiter and postergirl for the USAF. She cannot be an official postgirl for CAP at the same time as we are different organizations with different missions. Perhaps after she's done with her tour with the 'Birds... Since she was the first female and all... Although I think her records as a cadet would need to be reviewed. We don't know if she was such an outstanding member of CAP in her time.

Wow George, didn't mean to make you get your prop all bent out of a shape.  ;)

All I'm saying is, if we're to pick someone to represent CAP, we need someone young, fresh and 'out there', someone somewhat high profile that 'everyone' knows about and can look up to and respect.

I'm proud of every CAP cadet that has achieved greatness, in this day and age I think that is something that doesn't happen that often, and if we can have someone there to inspire future cadets on, then so be it.
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 05:38:47 PM
That I totally agree on. Do we know someone who's young, fresh, and very "admirable" in CAP today?

hmm... Pylon?
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Pylon on January 31, 2007, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 05:38:47 PM
That I totally agree on. Do we know someone who's young, fresh, and very "admirable" in CAP today?

hmm... Pylon?

:-X

Nah, he's just a lowly lieutenant working in some squadron somewhere.  Definitely not a "posterboy" for anything.   ::)
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Johnny Yuma on January 31, 2007, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 05:38:47 PM
That I totally agree on. Do we know someone who's young, fresh, and very "admirable" in CAP today?

hmm... Pylon?

How about that 30 year old TSGT who posed in Playboy? I hear she's looking for a job right now. ;) >:D >:D ;) >:D ;) >:D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 08:39:17 PM
Quote from: Johnny Yuma on January 31, 2007, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: afgeo4 on January 31, 2007, 05:38:47 PM
That I totally agree on. Do we know someone who's young, fresh, and very "admirable" in CAP today?

hmm... Pylon?

How about that 30 year old TSGT who posed in Playboy? I hear she's looking for a job right now. ;) >:D >:D ;) >:D ;) >:D ;D ;D ;D

Yes yes. That's my job, isn't it? Where'd they say she was stationed?
Title: Re: Who is the CAP Posterboy?
Post by: Smokey on January 31, 2007, 08:49:49 PM
Maj Malachowski (call sign FIFI) would be an excellent "posterperson".  Jerry Lewis wasn't exactly a regular CAP member. There is no reason she could not be the posterperson for both the USAF and CAP.   After all, it's not like she is a Blue Angel/Navy postergirl.  We are, after all still  (for now at least) the AF Aux.

Two side notes......Maj Malachowski's husband is an F-15 WSO was also a CAP cadet.

Second...the A-10 driver is Kim Cambell, (call sign   KC---aka Killer Chick) a former CAWG cadet.  She spoke at the National Conf in Las Vegas in 2003.