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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: Eclipse on January 16, 2019, 02:53:00 PM

Title: Certified uniforms from Vanguard now available...
Post by: Eclipse on January 16, 2019, 02:53:00 PM
...apparently.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7hYMxxg7/Screenshot-2019-01-16-07-25-18.png)
Title: Re: Certified uniforms from Vanguard now available...
Post by: chuckmilam on January 16, 2019, 06:52:41 PM
I'm not sure what this means.
Title: Re: Certified uniforms from Vanguard now available...
Post by: PHall on January 16, 2019, 07:12:26 PM
When you buy uniforms from AAFES Military Clothing Sales they are "Certified" to meet Air Force standards and specifications.
With the ABU, only the ones you buy at the MCSS are "certified". You're on your own if you buy them elsewhere.
At least that's what AAFES says...
Title: Re: Certified uniforms from Vanguard now available...
Post by: Eclipse on January 16, 2019, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: chuckmilam on January 16, 2019, 06:52:41 PM
I'm not sure what this means.

Well, since Vanguard doesn't sell "ABUs", and what they do sell isn't "certified" for anything, since there's no
spec to meet beyond "looks OK, sorta, kinda pink though", it doesn't mean much.
Title: Re: Certified uniforms from Vanguard now available...
Post by: TheSkyHornet on January 17, 2019, 03:23:51 PM
They're TRU-SPEC ABUs.
Title: Re: Certified uniforms from Vanguard now available...
Post by: Eclipse on January 17, 2019, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 17, 2019, 03:23:51 PM
They're TRU-SPEC ABUs.

Has this changed in the last 6 months or so?

The last ones I saw from VG were no-name knock-offs from Rhodesia with color issues.

No mil-spec tags, just "made in".

I also don't see the ABU pattern in the Tru-Spec inventory.
Title: Re: Certified uniforms from Vanguard now available...
Post by: TheSkyHornet on January 17, 2019, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on January 17, 2019, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on January 17, 2019, 03:23:51 PM
They're TRU-SPEC ABUs.

Has this changed in the last 6 months or so?

The last ones I saw from VG were no-name knock-offs from Rhodesia with color issues.

No mil-spec tags, just "made in".

I also don't see the ABU pattern in the Tru-Spec inventory.

Website specifically indicates "TRU-SPEC"
https://www.vanguardmil.com/collections/cap-abu-uniform

Now, they may entirely be knock-off (i.e., lies). No idea. As you said, TRU-SPEC doesn't sell ABUs on their website.

Just to be technical, TRU-SPEC is a clothing brand, not an actual specification to military standard or defense supply. I'm not sure the level of quality control that verifies that they're actually designing and producing to mil-spec versus "close enough," despite what they market themselves as.
Title: Re: Certified uniforms from Vanguard now available...
Post by: Eclipse on January 17, 2019, 07:45:13 PM
I wonder if this is Tru-Spec making them exclusively for VG.