CAP to receive international award

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Major Lord

#20
June 03, 2011, 05:08:22 PM
Usually to get a "Peace" award, you have to be a communist or a terrorist ( Yasser Arafat, etc.) Are we sure this is not one of those "Outstanding Young Men of America" type deals where you get you phony bio posted if you agree to buy the printed book?

Major Lord
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

James Shaw

#21
June 03, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: Major Lord on June 03, 2011, 05:08:22 PM
Usually to get a "Peace" award, you have to be a communist or a terrorist ( Yasser Arafat, etc.) Are we sure this is not one of those "Outstanding Young Men of America" type deals where you get you phony bio posted if you agree to buy the printed book?

I looked at their website and it is definitely a "legit" group. Former President Ronald Reagan is one of the past recipients. It is a great honor for CAP members. I hope the members see that.
Jim Shaw
USN: 1987-1992
GANG: 1996-1998
CAP:2000 - SER-SO
USCGA:2019 - BC-TDI/National Safety Team
SGAUS: 2017 - MEMS Academy State Director (Iowa)

Flyinsarge

#22
June 03, 2011, 07:21:08 PM
QuoteI looked at their website and it is definitely a "legit" group. Former President Ronald Reagan is one of the past recipients. It is a great honor for CAP members. I hope the members see that.


I sure do. (Well, thats why I posted it)  ::)

spacecommand

#23
June 03, 2011, 07:31:44 PM
Quote from: caphistorian on June 03, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: Major Lord on June 03, 2011, 05:08:22 PM
Usually to get a "Peace" award, you have to be a communist or a terrorist ( Yasser Arafat, etc.) Are we sure this is not one of those "Outstanding Young Men of America" type deals where you get you phony bio posted if you agree to buy the printed book?

I looked at their website and it is definitely a "legit" group. Former President Ronald Reagan is one of the past recipients. It is a great honor for CAP members. I hope the members see that.
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Also the award to be presented in a ceremony at the US Capitol.

James Shaw

#24
June 03, 2011, 07:34:56 PM
Here is a link to the main website.

http://worldpeaceprize.org/about/

It has alot of good information about the group and their mission.
Jim Shaw
USN: 1987-1992
GANG: 1996-1998
CAP:2000 - SER-SO
USCGA:2019 - BC-TDI/National Safety Team
SGAUS: 2017 - MEMS Academy State Director (Iowa)

BillB

#25
June 03, 2011, 07:36:32 PM
CAPHISTORIAN is right we have bigger thing to solve rather than the Triangle Thingy. Things like uniforms
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Майор Хаткевич

#26
June 03, 2011, 07:52:14 PM
Quote from: BillB on June 03, 2011, 07:36:32 PM
CAPHISTORIAN is right we have bigger thing to solve rather than the Triangle Thingy. Things like uniforms

And how to make the "Triangle Thingy" part of C/Enlisted insignia/Patches

Major Lord

#27
June 03, 2011, 09:46:38 PM
Just a little research shows that the founder of this group, Robert L. Leggett, was a Congressman with socialist, and anti-war sympathies and was identified in a now declassified D.O.D. report as a person making contacts within the Soviet Union. Their stated goals seem vague, and besides Ronald Reagan ( May he live forever in the Halls of Valhalla) past recipients seem like a lot of strange ducks.... More research into this group and their goals, and how CAP came to their attention seems prudent.

I think relying solely on their website to establish their bona fides is less than diligent.

Major Lord
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

Майор Хаткевич

#28
June 04, 2011, 12:21:51 AM
Quote from: Major Lord on June 03, 2011, 09:46:38 PM
Just a little research shows that the founder of this group, Robert L. Leggett, was a Congressman with socialist, and anti-war sympathies and was identified in a now declassified D.O.D. report as a person making contacts within the Soviet Union. Their stated goals seem vague, and besides Ronald Reagan ( May he live forever in the Halls of Valhalla) past recipients seem like a lot of strange ducks.... More research into this group and their goals, and how CAP came to their attention seems prudent.

I think relying solely on their website to establish their bona fides is less than diligent.

Major Lord

Making contacts in what way?

What is this obsession with anything/one Soviet linked?

Major Lord

#29
June 04, 2011, 01:30:10 AM
Would you accept a prize from Hezboallah? How about NAMBLA? Yes, it is true that I hate Commies, but that's not the point here. The fact is that no one knows who this group is, or what they represent, other than some very vague stuff about evangelical associations and eliminating all religious conflict in the world. Before we pin that award on, I would like to know who it represents, and what their goals and purposes are. What I have seen on just a cursory look is a Socialist leaning Congress-critter who was the subject of anti-American investigations, but if I get some time to pursue it, I will let you know what I find out about them.

Major Lord
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

elipod

#30
June 04, 2011, 01:58:16 AM
I would say this does need looking into before CAP accepts the award. Here is a quote from an article about the founder (Robert L. Leggett)

"But Thomson's introductions of Leggett to her friends at the South Korean Embassy, including three diplomats later identified as members of the Korean intelligence service, led to a scandal dubbed "Koreagate."

The Department of Justice investigated allegations that Leggett received money from the Koreans for political favors, but Leggett was never indicted."

http://articles.latimes.com/1997/aug/16/news/mn-22972
"Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else"

Майор Хаткевич

#31
June 04, 2011, 02:24:06 AM
I agree that the award seems odd for CAP, but the whole "liberal/socialist/left/commie" BS is just that.

It's 2011. Time to move on.

NCRblues

#32
June 04, 2011, 03:07:36 AM
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on June 04, 2011, 02:24:06 AM
I agree that the award seems odd for CAP, but the whole "liberal/socialist/left/commie" BS is just that.

It's 2011. Time to move on.

Move on from what? The US govt is still anti communist/socialist. On the books we still provide relief and support to country's that are facing communist take over (i.e. that's why we still have military bases in Korea)

If this is a communist/socialist group, we as members of CAP, have a need to refuse this award. I'm all for world peace, but not done the soviet way.... we see how well that worked out for them  ::)
In god we trust, all others we run through NCIC

Майор Хаткевич

#33
June 04, 2011, 03:12:07 AM
Quote from: NCRblues on June 04, 2011, 03:07:36 AM
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on June 04, 2011, 02:24:06 AM
I agree that the award seems odd for CAP, but the whole "liberal/socialist/left/commie" BS is just that.

It's 2011. Time to move on.

Move on from what? The US govt is still anti communist/socialist. On the books we still provide relief and support to country's that are facing communist take over (i.e. that's why we still have military bases in Korea)

If this is a communist/socialist group, we as members of CAP, have a need to refuse this award. I'm all for world peace, but not done the soviet way.... we see how well that worked out for them  ::)

Which is why I said it's time to move on. This isn't a Communist group. I don't care what they are, but not that. Then again, to some people, anyone who doesn't hail Reagan as the best person ever is a communist.

TeamBronx

#34
June 04, 2011, 04:44:21 AM
Former congressman Lester Wolff was a member of New York Wing.  Later he commanded the CAP Congressional Squadron.  He was always good to our program here in New York.  He was probably the driving force behind CAP getting this award.  WIWAC he helped sponsor the New York Phase of IACE.

RRLE

#35
June 04, 2011, 12:21:50 PM
Quote from: NCRblues on June 04, 2011, 03:07:36 AM

The US govt is still anti communist/socialist.

The US govt never was and is not anti-socialist. Some of our best allies in Europe and elsewhere are socialist. And with Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid etc we are not far from it. There are huge differences between communists, socialists and liberals. Lumping them together is no different then lumping conservatives with fascists.

QuoteI'm all for world peace, but not done the soviet way

The soviets are in the dustbin of history. You can stop worrying about them. They aren't hiding under your bed.

CT074CC

#36
June 04, 2011, 01:14:33 PM
I'd have to agree into looking closer into this 'award'.  We need to find out who they truly are and really where they stand on the issues.  Furthermore, the US has NEVER been a socialist country, we are anti-socialist.  If you can't understand that, I suggest reading some of the writings of the founding fathers to be reeducated.

davidsinn

#37
June 04, 2011, 01:33:24 PM
Quote from: CAPSAR86 on June 04, 2011, 01:14:33 PM
I'd have to agree into looking closer into this 'award'.  We need to find out who they truly are and really where they stand on the issues.  Furthermore, the US has NEVER been a socialist country, we are anti-socialist.  If you can't understand that, I suggest reading some of the writings of the founding fathers to be reeducated.

As much as it pains me to say: the US has been socialist since the at least the '30s...
Former CAP Captain
David Sinn

CT074CC

#38
June 04, 2011, 01:37:20 PM
What I was trying to say is that isn't the original intent, but we have gotten off the path.  Our American principles are stronger than that.

Flyinsarge

#39
June 04, 2011, 01:45:19 PM
Yeah, I will also have to say that we should look closer at this award. America is not by any means a socilist country, and I dont belive in the whole idea of "ending all wars no matter what", and yes, I think we should look closer before we go taking any award. Just my thoughts....
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