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Started by infinitefoxfire75, July 28, 2009, 12:40:55 AM

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infinitefoxfire75

I have a huge question.  When it comes to shoulder chords which is which.  I can't find any regs on which one is which


Blue shoulder chord is......
Red shoulder chord is......
White shoulder chord is......
Silver shoulder chord is......
Yellow shoulder chord is......

please hit me up.
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Eclipse

Quote from: infinitefoxfire75 on July 28, 2009, 12:40:55 AM
I have a huge question.  When it comes to shoulder chords which is which.  I can't find any regs on which one is which


Blue shoulder chord is......not standard, varies by wing
Red shoulder chord is......cadets assigned to Wing CAC
White shoulder chord is......cadets participating in an NCC golor guard
Silver shoulder chord is......cadet Honor Guard Academy graduates
Yellow shoulder chord is......not standard, varies by wing

please hit me up.

Green - Group CAC

"That Others May Zoom"

VPI18

I always thought blue was region CAC and yellow, national CAC...

MIKE

Quote from: CAPR 52-16Figure 3-1. Awards & Identification for CAC Primary Representatives.
Appointing Authority CAC Echelon CAC Ribbon Device Shoulder Cord
Regions National Ribbon with gold star Gold
Wings Region Ribbon with silver star Blue
Groups or Squadrons Wing Ribbon with bronze star Red
Squadrons Group Basic ribbon only Green
Mike Johnston

SarDragon

Mos, can we fix the title, please?

Chords are musical in nature, not items of apparel. Those would be cords.
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PHall

Well, let's see here. A chord is is the mean effective length of an air foil. As far as I know, they don't come in any particular colors.

A shoulder cord is what is worn on the uniform.

Green is worn by Squadron Reps to a Group CAC. (If your wing has groups.)
Red is worn by Squadron Reps to the Wing CAC if your wing does not have groups or by Group Reps to the Wing CAC if your wing does have groups.
Blue is worn by Wing Reps to the Region CAC.
Gold is worn by Region Reps to the National CAC.

Eclipse

Quote from: wilhelm147 on July 28, 2009, 01:08:43 AM
I always thought blue was region CAC and yellow, national CAC...

Whoops - that's correct, and as PHall points out, its a gold cord, not yellow, which threw me on the response.

(Wow, post #5700 - I really need to open a window...)

"That Others May Zoom"

DC

Green = Group CAC
Red = Wing CAC
Blue = Region CAC
Gold = National CAC
White = NDTC and NCGC Teams, some wings also allow their CGs and DTs to wear the white cords.
Silver = Unit Honor Guard members or NHGA grads

davedove

Other than the few colors that are set in the regs, Wings may also authorize shoulder cords of different colors for different reasons.
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BrandonKea

Quote from: davedove on July 28, 2009, 11:40:22 AM
Other than the few colors that are set in the regs, Wings may also authorize shoulder cords of different colors for different reasons.

Nebraska Wing previously had two cords for cadets with outstanding GPA's. I don't remember the exact colors of the GPA standards, but there's a lurker on here who knows and could probably remind me.
Brandon Kea, Capt, CAP

BuckeyeDEJ

Quote from: BrandonKea on July 28, 2009, 11:56:28 PM
Quote from: davedove on July 28, 2009, 11:40:22 AM
Other than the few colors that are set in the regs, Wings may also authorize shoulder cords of different colors for different reasons.

Nebraska Wing previously had two cords for cadets with outstanding GPA's. I don't remember the exact colors of the GPA standards, but there's a lurker on here who knows and could probably remind me.

Do they have cords for perfect attendance, too?


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jimmydeanno

Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:38:50 AM
Do they have cords for perfect attendance, too?

Why you hatin'?

Our unit has a cord (yes, it is authorized by the wing king) which is yellow and blue.  It signifies our cadets of the quarter.  So at any given time, 4 of our cadets are wearing one.  Is that to foo foo too?
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

BuckeyeDEJ

Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 29, 2009, 01:41:24 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:38:50 AM
Do they have cords for perfect attendance, too?

Why you hatin'?

Our unit has a cord (yes, it is authorized by the wing king) which is yellow and blue.  It signifies our cadets of the quarter.  So at any given time, 4 of our cadets are wearing one.  Is that to foo foo too?

Nope, no disdain here for cords, as long as they're authorized with some restraint, as long as they make sense to the organization, and as long as the recognition is cord-worthy, versus ribbon-worthy.

Wearing a cord for a good GPA would be as relevant to CAP as wearing a cord for service on a volunteer fire department. A cord for a cadet of the quarter is just fine, though four of them wearing the same cord might be a little confusing.


CAP since 1984: Lt Col; former C/Lt Col; MO, MRO, MS, IO; former sq CC/CD/PA; group, wing, region PA, natl cmte mbr, nat'l staff member.
REAL LIFE: Working journalist in SPG, DTW (News), SRQ, PIT (Trib), 2D1, WVI, W22; editor, desk chief, designer, photog, columnist, reporter, graphics guy, visual editor, but not all at once. Now a communications manager for an international multisport venue.

BrandonKea

Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:45:34 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 29, 2009, 01:41:24 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:38:50 AM
Do they have cords for perfect attendance, too?

Why you hatin'?

Our unit has a cord (yes, it is authorized by the wing king) which is yellow and blue.  It signifies our cadets of the quarter.  So at any given time, 4 of our cadets are wearing one.  Is that to foo foo too?

Nope, no disdain here for cords, as long as they're authorized with some restraint, as long as they make sense to the organization, and as long as the recognition is cord-worthy, versus ribbon-worthy.

Wearing a cord for a good GPA would be as relevant to CAP as wearing a cord for service on a volunteer fire department. A cord for a cadet of the quarter is just fine, though four of them wearing the same cord might be a little confusing.

The cord for the GPA highlights those with a commitment to getting good grades. "A satisfactory record of academic achievement" is a requirement for being a cadet. Rewarding good grades is just an extension of that requirement. Rather than just asking to meet the standard, NEWG tried to push the cadets to greatness.
Brandon Kea, Capt, CAP

BuckeyeDEJ

Quote from: BrandonKea on July 29, 2009, 03:21:00 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:45:34 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 29, 2009, 01:41:24 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:38:50 AM
Do they have cords for perfect attendance, too?

Why you hatin'?

Our unit has a cord (yes, it is authorized by the wing king) which is yellow and blue.  It signifies our cadets of the quarter.  So at any given time, 4 of our cadets are wearing one.  Is that to foo foo too?

Nope, no disdain here for cords, as long as they're authorized with some restraint, as long as they make sense to the organization, and as long as the recognition is cord-worthy, versus ribbon-worthy.

Wearing a cord for a good GPA would be as relevant to CAP as wearing a cord for service on a volunteer fire department. A cord for a cadet of the quarter is just fine, though four of them wearing the same cord might be a little confusing.

The cord for the GPA highlights those with a commitment to getting good grades. "A satisfactory record of academic achievement" is a requirement for being a cadet. Rewarding good grades is just an extension of that requirement. Rather than just asking to meet the standard, NEWG tried to push the cadets to greatness.

"Satisfactory" could be a C average.

Here's the thing. Cords are usually used to identify special assignments or details. Aides wear cords, though they don't call 'em cords. CAC members wear cords. Color guard members and honor guard members wear 'em, too. I could see stretching that to special cadet recognition directly stemming from cadet program participation.

Cords are easy to get out of hand. That's my other caution with them. Next thing you know, it'll be berets, or maybe goofy little patches above the nametag that say "ranger second class." Oh, wait, we have that....


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REAL LIFE: Working journalist in SPG, DTW (News), SRQ, PIT (Trib), 2D1, WVI, W22; editor, desk chief, designer, photog, columnist, reporter, graphics guy, visual editor, but not all at once. Now a communications manager for an international multisport venue.

CadetProgramGuy

We have a Black/Gold Cord for Outstanding Cadet of the Quarter

BrandonKea

Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 04:01:27 AM
Quote from: BrandonKea on July 29, 2009, 03:21:00 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:45:34 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 29, 2009, 01:41:24 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:38:50 AM
Do they have cords for perfect attendance, too?

Why you hatin'?

Our unit has a cord (yes, it is authorized by the wing king) which is yellow and blue.  It signifies our cadets of the quarter.  So at any given time, 4 of our cadets are wearing one.  Is that to foo foo too?

Nope, no disdain here for cords, as long as they're authorized with some restraint, as long as they make sense to the organization, and as long as the recognition is cord-worthy, versus ribbon-worthy.

Wearing a cord for a good GPA would be as relevant to CAP as wearing a cord for service on a volunteer fire department. A cord for a cadet of the quarter is just fine, though four of them wearing the same cord might be a little confusing.

The cord for the GPA highlights those with a commitment to getting good grades. "A satisfactory record of academic achievement" is a requirement for being a cadet. Rewarding good grades is just an extension of that requirement. Rather than just asking to meet the standard, NEWG tried to push the cadets to greatness.

"Satisfactory" could be a C average.


I think a C average would be satisfactory. Someone who has, however, an A average, would be going above the satisfactory mark. Recognizing cadets for being exemplaray seems like a smart idea to me, especially in something as important as good grades.
Brandon Kea, Capt, CAP

davidsinn

Quote from: BrandonKea on July 29, 2009, 11:34:28 PM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 04:01:27 AM
Quote from: BrandonKea on July 29, 2009, 03:21:00 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:45:34 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 29, 2009, 01:41:24 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:38:50 AM
Do they have cords for perfect attendance, too?

Why you hatin'?

Our unit has a cord (yes, it is authorized by the wing king) which is yellow and blue.  It signifies our cadets of the quarter.  So at any given time, 4 of our cadets are wearing one.  Is that to foo foo too?

Nope, no disdain here for cords, as long as they're authorized with some restraint, as long as they make sense to the organization, and as long as the recognition is cord-worthy, versus ribbon-worthy.

Wearing a cord for a good GPA would be as relevant to CAP as wearing a cord for service on a volunteer fire department. A cord for a cadet of the quarter is just fine, though four of them wearing the same cord might be a little confusing.

The cord for the GPA highlights those with a commitment to getting good grades. "A satisfactory record of academic achievement" is a requirement for being a cadet. Rewarding good grades is just an extension of that requirement. Rather than just asking to meet the standard, NEWG tried to push the cadets to greatness.

"Satisfactory" could be a C average.


I think a C average would be satisfactory. Someone who has, however, an A average, would be going above the satisfactory mark. Recognizing cadets for being exemplaray seems like a smart idea to me, especially in something as important as good grades.

So if you only did your work at your job at only a 70% level your boss would consider that satisfactory?
Former CAP Captain
David Sinn

BrandonKea

Quote from: davidsinn on July 30, 2009, 12:10:13 AM
Quote from: BrandonKea on July 29, 2009, 11:34:28 PM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 04:01:27 AM
Quote from: BrandonKea on July 29, 2009, 03:21:00 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:45:34 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on July 29, 2009, 01:41:24 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on July 29, 2009, 01:38:50 AM
Do they have cords for perfect attendance, too?

Why you hatin'?

Our unit has a cord (yes, it is authorized by the wing king) which is yellow and blue.  It signifies our cadets of the quarter.  So at any given time, 4 of our cadets are wearing one.  Is that to foo foo too?

Nope, no disdain here for cords, as long as they're authorized with some restraint, as long as they make sense to the organization, and as long as the recognition is cord-worthy, versus ribbon-worthy.

Wearing a cord for a good GPA would be as relevant to CAP as wearing a cord for service on a volunteer fire department. A cord for a cadet of the quarter is just fine, though four of them wearing the same cord might be a little confusing.

The cord for the GPA highlights those with a commitment to getting good grades. "A satisfactory record of academic achievement" is a requirement for being a cadet. Rewarding good grades is just an extension of that requirement. Rather than just asking to meet the standard, NEWG tried to push the cadets to greatness.

"Satisfactory" could be a C average.


I think a C average would be satisfactory. Someone who has, however, an A average, would be going above the satisfactory mark. Recognizing cadets for being exemplaray seems like a smart idea to me, especially in something as important as good grades.

So if you only did your work at your job at only a 70% level your boss would consider that satisfactory?

Apples and Oranges. 70% in school is a passing grade. 70% for an Air Ambulance would probably not be.
Brandon Kea, Capt, CAP

alamrcn

Other than the fix for Cadet Officers wearing the "bus driver" hat, shoulder cords are the #1 item in wing-level suppliments to 39-1.

Here are a bunch of them...
http://www.incountry.us/cappatches/library.html#Regulations and Manuals

If you have a suppliment that isn't there, let me know!



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