"We are civil air patrol" Video - Need opinions for any changes

Started by PilotMan, September 19, 2012, 06:03:50 PM

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Critical AOA

Quote from: johnnyb47 on September 20, 2012, 08:14:58 PM

I would consider the term "Athletic Comfort" to be a marketing thing.
The neck is what is important. that is a Crew Neck.
If you can see it clearly with your top button undone it is a crew neck.
If you can't it's either one of the other styles (V-Neck, U-Neck) or WAY too big for the wearer. :)


I don't disagree with your interpretation but I just believe the use of the term athletic style in the reg  to be a bit ambiguous.  I have played more sports wearing a crew neck t-shirt than a tank top.


But back to the topic at hand.  Even with the few minor uniform violations, it is a great video.
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johnnyb47

http://www.hanes.com/clothing/men/undershirts
A-Shirt or Athletic Style shirt is what we have been calling muscle shirts since I was a yound lad.
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Flying Pig

"I remember laying on the grass in Oahu watching the planes fly over"  DUDE....that was called Pearl Harbor!!   >:D  That was a great video.

PilotMan

Quote from: Extremepredjudice on September 20, 2012, 06:03:06 AM
All of the cadets I saw wearing cords are wearing them wrong (CAPM39-1, 5-5).

They are supposed to be attached at the bottom, not freely hanging.

Thank you!!

SarDragon

Quote from: PilotMan on September 21, 2012, 05:45:57 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on September 20, 2012, 06:03:06 AM
All of the cadets I saw wearing cords are wearing them wrong (CAPM39-1, 5-5).

They are supposed to be attached at the bottom, not freely hanging.

Thank you!!

This presumes that you are rejecting the info in the quote, and accepting all the other guidance that was provided.  ???
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PilotMan

Quote from: SarDragon on September 21, 2012, 11:52:12 PM
Quote from: PilotMan on September 21, 2012, 05:45:57 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on September 20, 2012, 06:03:06 AM
All of the cadets I saw wearing cords are wearing them wrong (CAPM39-1, 5-5).

They are supposed to be attached at the bottom, not freely hanging.

Thank you!!

This presumes that you are rejecting the info in the quote, and accepting all the other guidance that was provided.  ???

Someone else wrote that......... I accept all criticism and I agree..... One of the cadets appeared to have the cords sitting on their shoulder versus having under the epaulette.  Im guessing they put it on that way for the picture.  Thank you for all the great observations!!

SarDragon

OK, looked one more time, and the red, white, and blue trio doesn't have them on right. They should be under the epaulet. Didn't go back for any of the others.
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♠SARKID♠

I'll echo the uniform comments, but otherwise a very slick vid!  Great music too, thanks for finding a new artist for me to add to my Spotify playlist  :)

jimmydeanno

I understand the way that uniform violations irk CAP members, really I do.  However, I watched this video (very well done, BTW), and I can't see a reason to go back into it, find new clips, re-edit, and reproduce it for a relatively few number of incorrectly worn uniform items.  To us insiders we could spend all day point out the errors - but we aren't the intended audience of the clip.  Because the audience is external, I would go by the standard of "do the members present a positive image of the organization" - period.

I liken this to the idea that NHQ should dump their entire stock photo archive every time there is a uniform regulation change - it just doesn't make sense.  Nobody in the outside world cares, one way or the other, if a cadet has a wing patch on their blues on the recruiting brochure - likewise, people aren't going to know the difference between how cords are worn on our uniforms.
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

Smith

Great video! May I ask what you used to capture the footage and the voice overlay?  I've been putting together some recruiting videos of my own using personal picture and footage from out HG and activities, and a little from Google searches.  The only one I have on YouTube is a mash-up of the radio PSA found on the national website and the Cadet Life video, found here:

Civil Air Patrol Recruiting 45secs

I am currently working on a more professional cinematic style video at the moment but am finding video footage and voice overlays are much more attractive, but are very scarce.  I am using Sony Vegas Pro for the editing and such but it can only help so much.

Thanks for the great video!

RickRutledge

Quote from: c/Smith on September 24, 2012, 06:05:40 AM
The only one I have on YouTube is a mash-up of the radio PSA found on the national website and the Cadet Life video

From the person who voiced and produced the Radio PSAs on the NHQ website, I'm super impressed on how you put this video together. Nice to see someone putting our hardwork to work for their unit/wing. Hats off!
Maj. Rick Rutledge
Wing Public Affairs Officer
Oklahoma Wing
Broken Arrow Composite Squadron
Commander
Civil Air Patrol
(Cadet 1996-2001)

RickRutledge

OH and as for this video. I would hack out the one photo of the Captain with the crew neck shirt on, it's the only seriously obvious uniform violation.

In the future, be careful about taking pictures with the following:
1) Crew neck shirts in blues
2) Cadets in reflective sunglasses
3) Grooming standard violations
4) Misalignment of accouterments on blues

These are the most common uniform violations and unless you believe crucifixion is a sufficient means of motivation, avoid them. It's simple, read CAPR 39-1 cover to cover a few times (it takes that many because of how darn confusing it is) and you'll begin to spot issues at 20 paces. If you're setting up group shots, do a solid once over on everyone in the photo. If you're taking "action" shots, review carefully before you post/use. 

Just some helpful best practices. But, it should be said, if you consistently have uniform violations in pictures, it should be addressed with your Squadron CC and therefore with the members. I try to train all the PAOs in my wing as uniform nazis, it helps eliminate issues especially since NHQ scrapes tons of news outlets across the country for stories about CAP. Someone, somewhere will see the screw up, especially if it happens more than once.

Feel free to PM me if you'd like any additional help on anything like this. I have access to multiple Voice Over studios and I do it professionally, if you need something read for something like this, just let me know.

rrutledge@okwgcap.org
Maj. Rick Rutledge
Wing Public Affairs Officer
Oklahoma Wing
Broken Arrow Composite Squadron
Commander
Civil Air Patrol
(Cadet 1996-2001)

EMT-83

Ignore the "experts" here and don't change a thing.

Job well done.

Cool Mace

Quote from: EMT-83 on October 04, 2012, 02:06:13 PM
Ignore the "experts" here and don't change a thing.

Job well done.

He asked for advise on the video.  They also said that they were being nit-picky in some areas, and to take it as he will. This is CT after all. You're going to get a handful of response from people when you ask for advise. And I know of at least one person that commented is an expert when it comes to this.

Great video BTW!
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