Crisis Service Ribbon

[Capt Thompson]

New Crisis Service Ribbon approved today by Gen Phelka, change letter at:

https://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/1913/finalinterimchangeletter39-3crisisserviceawarddec2021corrected.pdf?86212&fbclid=IwAR2FiiPCtbn_g5fQx8fLSxCx_ct4Fs881Kn_Hk9_dl988TxuVWmfWSducbo

[Eclipse]

Battle streamers to follow.

[rdmcii]

Before this gets locked, I have a question:

Paragraph 2 states: "This award ranks immediately before the Red Service Ribbon in the order of precedence.", yet it is shown as immediately ABOVE the RSR on attachment 2. Which is it?

[Capt Thompson]

Props to the folks that take care of the McChord Rack Builder for already having this, I wonder if they get advanced notice of these changes?

[Capt Thompson]

Before this gets locked, I have a question:

Paragraph 2 states: "This award ranks immediately before the Red Service Ribbon in the order of precedence.", yet it is shown as immediately ABOVE the RSR on attachment 2. Which is it?

Correct, above the RSR would be before it in order of precedence, as you would count top down.

[Eclipse]

Paragraph 2 states: "This award ranks immediately before the Red Service Ribbon in the order of precedence.", yet it is shown as immediately ABOVE the RSR on attachment 2. Which is it?

I'm missing the confusion.

Before it and above it are the same thing in this context.

[Eclipse]

https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-ribbon-national-crisis-senior-and-cadet

[Capt Thompson]

https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-ribbon-national-crisis-senior-and-cadet

Would have been nice if they still had the 15% off going today, I have about 40 I will need to order for the Squadron.

[PHall]

It's the CAP version of the National Defense Service Medal. The award criteria is almost the same as the NDSM.

[rdmcii]

"I'm missing the confusion.

Before it and above it are the same thing in this context."

I see where you are coming from; I'm thinking bottom up, you're thinking top down.

[TheSkyHornet]

"I'm missing the confusion.

Before it and above it are the same thing in this context."

I see where you are coming from; I'm thinking bottom up, you're thinking top down.

In order of precedence, before means next higher

[TheSkyHornet]

https://www.vanguardmil.com/products/civil-air-patrol-ribbon-national-crisis-senior-and-cadet

Would have been nice if they still had the 15% off going today, I have about 40 I will need to order for the Squadron.

You can still get 10% off with the promo code: FBDEC2021

[baronet68]

Before this gets locked, I have a question:

Paragraph 2 states: "This award ranks immediately before the Red Service Ribbon in the order of precedence.", yet it is shown as immediately ABOVE the RSR on attachment 2. Which is it?

The McChord Rack Builder shows the proper precedence.

[Fubar]

Would have been nice if they still had the 15% off going today, I have about 40 I will need to order for the Squadron.

I doubt the timing was a coincidence.

[Shuman 14]

It's the CAP version of the National Defense Service Medal. The award criteria is almost the same as the NDSM.

Yes and no. If this "crisis" period ends, and they stop awarding it, and then a new "crisis" occurs, and they start awarding it again... then I would agree, it's the CAP version of the NDSM.

If they award it for just this "crisis", and it never gets awarded again, then it is the COVID Campaign Medal.

It does kinda look like a NDSM... with the middle colors reserved. Just saying.

[N6RVT]

It's the CAP version of the National Defense Service Medal. The award criteria is almost the same as the NDSM.

Yes and no. If this "crisis" period ends, and they stop awarding it, and then a new "crisis" occurs, and they start awarding it again... then I would agree, it's the CAP version of the NDSM.If they award it for just this "crisis", and it never gets awarded again, then it is the COVID Campaign Medal.It does kinda look like a NDSM... with the middle colors reserved. Just saying.

Here are both of them for comparison.

[Stonewall]

Would have been nice if they still had the 15% off going today, I have about 40 I will need to order for the Squadron.

There's always the monthly 10% discount. Not much, but it's something.

[LSThiker]

It's the CAP version of the National Defense Service Medal. The award criteria is almost the same as the NDSM.

It does kinda look like a NDSM... with the middle colors reserved. Just saying.

Here are both of them for comparison.

It is more appropriately similar in design to the US Public Health Crisis Response Medal, replaced above.

[SarDragon]

From a reliable source:

Scarlet, Old Glory Blue, Golden Yellow and White are in the National Defense Service Medal, and reflect the nation wide crisis, Purple from DOD Humanitarian Service Medal, and Silver for CAP (TIOH Color Palette).

[N6RVT]

It is more appropriately similar in design to the US Public Health Crisis Response Medal, replaced above.

Agreed - just the inner two colors reversed from the looks of it.  The criteria for awarding it more matches the disaster relief ribbon, whereas ours is more like the army service ribbon as you get it just for joining the organization.  This will be the first ribbon anyone gets, even before the membership ribbon for level one.