CAP Aircraft Different Color-schemes/Liveries/Paint-Designs

Started by jfkspotting, May 08, 2017, 12:44:54 AM

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jfkspotting

Good evening.

How many different types of CAP color-schemes are there? I noticed there may be several.

The most common seem to be this one: Big "Civil Air Patrol" Lettering on the tail, and a straight horizontal stripe/cheatline running the length of the fuselage to the tail.
http://units.flwg.us/resources/site1738/General/6825101352_37c4d80819_z.jpg

Then there's the one with the "USAF AUX" lettering on the tail, and stripe/cheatline curving up towards the tail, looking more "modernized":
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bd/aa/2f/bdaa2fd1e8809cc37b60cdf88969db7a.jpg

There also appears to be one that has the CAP emblem on the tail...
http://r2.aviationpros.com/files/base/image/CAVC/2012/07/16x9/640x360/civil-air-patrol-aircraft41102_10742541.jpg

And one without any tail-titles:
http://www.mcchord.org/20030330/506Xnewpaint.jpg

There is also a few oddballs:
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=eq8ad0&s=8
http://r1.aviationpros.com/files/base/CAVC/image/2016/01/16x9/640x360/Cessna172_CatalinaTakeOff.568be1eb301cf.jpg





SarDragon

The FLWG pic shows the current approved paint scheme, with the big "Civil Air Patrol" lettering. The cheat lines seem to vary with no apparent reason. I've seen three different versions, side by side, all with the correct tail markings.

The next two aren't right by today's standards, but may be early versions of the paint scheme. The fourth one may be waiting to have its decal applied.

N61848 is not, to the best of my knowledge, a CAP owned airplane. It was deregistered, prior to export, in 2008.
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Luis R. Ramos

Why/how can the OP even think that N61848 is a CAP airplane? It does not have the correct scheme nor does it has anything stating it is a CAP airplane...
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arajca

The fourth one was the old CAP emblem (not the seal or majcom) which was phased out a couple years ago. Also, the picture was taken in 2012, it may not still have that emblem. IIRC, between 2010 and 2014, CAP was trying to standardize the fleet's paint and marking scheme, but there were a few variations depending on when the a/c was painted.

MacGruff

PA wing has one Cessna 172 that is colored Brown and White. Only small letters state CAP on it. I may be seeing it this weekend and if so, will try to take a picture of it to post here. It looks nothing like any of these others and only looks like a regular General Aviation unit.

PHall

Quote from: MacGruff on May 08, 2017, 09:04:53 PM
PA wing has one Cessna 172 that is colored Brown and White. Only small letters state CAP on it. I may be seeing it this weekend and if so, will try to take a picture of it to post here. It looks nothing like any of these others and only looks like a regular General Aviation unit.

If it's within 5 years of being disposed of and the paint is sound, they won't waste money getting it repainted.

jfkspotting

Quote from: MacGruff on May 08, 2017, 09:04:53 PM
PA wing has one Cessna 172 that is colored Brown and White. Only small letters state CAP on it. I may be seeing it this weekend and if so, will try to take a picture of it to post here. It looks nothing like any of these others and only looks like a regular General Aviation unit.

I have seen this one online before. Up here in NYW there is one, and an all gray one also.

jfkspotting

Quote from: SarDragon on May 08, 2017, 07:00:39 AM
The FLWG pic shows the current approved paint scheme, with the big "Civil Air Patrol" lettering. The cheat lines seem to vary with no apparent reason. I've seen three different versions, side by side, all with the correct tail markings.

The next two aren't right by today's standards, but may be early versions of the paint scheme. The fourth one may be waiting to have its decal applied.

N61848 is not, to the best of my knowledge, a CAP owned airplane. It was deregistered, prior to export, in 2008.

Will the Ex. Iraqi c172 grays be repainted?

SarDragon

Probably. Most of us on here aren't in that loop to know.
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C/WO, CAP, Ret

jfkspotting

Quote from: SarDragon on May 09, 2017, 02:04:32 AM
Probably. Most of us on here aren't in that loop to know.

I noticed we picked up 2 c206T this year...However with 16 182's to be delivered will we see any more 206? GA8?

SarDragon

206s - probably. GA-8s - almost certainly not. The equipment they were bought to carry is no longer operational, and they aren't a good fit for most of the rest of our operations.
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jfkspotting

Quote from: SarDragon on May 09, 2017, 02:13:13 AM
206s - probably. GA-8s - almost certainly not. The equipment they were bought to carry is no longer operational, and they aren't a good fit for most of the rest of our operations.

Why do we have a bunch of random 182's flying around with different HP? I've seen anything from the standards 230 all the way up to 265Hp.

Some have two blades some have three.

Do we have any 185??

SarDragon

It's all about age. We have planes made anywhere from 1985 or so to 2016.

As for a 185, go to the FAA Registry site ( Aircraft Registration Inquiry ), and do a search on name (Civil Air Patrol) or 185 (Make/Model).

[edit] It looks like we have three.
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C/WO, CAP, Ret

MacGruff

Thanks for link! I found the registration for that airplane. It's N9824L and it's been with CAP since 1987.  I also found a few images on-line for it from when it was apparently assigned to the NY Wing (or maybe just visiting there???).

http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircraft/large/001/021/001021190.jpg

The link above is for the site where I found the images. Interestingly enough, these are images from 2010 and it was painted grey then. I haven't seen it in several months, but my recollection of it is that it's painted a light brown where the grey parts are in these pictures. So, some time between 2010 and 2013, it got repainted.

With this airplane reaching 30 years of age, is there a designated retirement age for it? [I'm sure it has to do more with how many hours it's been flying, but one would think/hope that the number of years is a proxy to that...]

Blanding

CAPR 66-1 shows the current approved paint and decals for our aircraft in Attachment 2 if you're still curious:

https://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/R066_001_8067887A28C8C.pdf