Senior with Beard in AF Style Uniform--Really?

[old141pilot]

I was at a wing event and was surprised to see a senior major wearing the AF style uniform and also a beard.  When I returned home I reviewed 39-1 just to see if something had changed.  I have nothing against beards and the CAP has made styles of uniform available where beards may be worn.  If we wear the AF style uniform, let's abide by the conditions.

[SarDragon]

Did you approach him and let him know that he might not be exactly following the rules? I have a beard, and certainly would have.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Were there any Air Force personnel there, and, if so, did they see this member?

I wonder if he could be a renegade continuing to wear the CSU.

[SarDragon]

CSU was never authorized for us barbate folks, so he's still wrong.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

CSU was never authorized for us barbate folks, so he's still wrong.

I forgot...

[Noble Six]

CAP special operations perhaps

[PHall]

Shaving waiver...

[SarDragon]

C'mon. Phil. That gets you 1/8"? 1/4"? Surely not as much as I wear, even at its shortest.

[PHall]

C'mon. Phil. That gets you 1/8"? 1/4"? Surely not as much as I wear, even at its shortest.

Some people see a shaving waiver as a license to get away with it. Of course we don't have shaving waivers in CAP...

[SPD6696]

While picking up my son from his meeting, I, too, saw a senior member in an AF style uniform with a goatee.  Not being a CAP member, I did not say anything, but rather, trusted that the other senior members will square this person away.  I'll give it time.  My cadet son noticed it too, and I told him to drive on, and let the SMs handle it.   If I see him continue this practice, I will approach the Squadron Commander and bring it to his attention.  I believe that he just made 2Lt, so I find it hard to believe that he does not know the regs.  I have seen this SM in CAP distinctive uniforms before, and this is the first time I saw him in an AF style uniform. 

I didn't realize how much it would bother me until I actually saw it.  The old NCO in me started to come out.  Respect the uniform. 

[Pylon]

Not that it makes it right for CAP (because there's not a provision for it in our regulations) but facial hair not a complete abomination for Air Force uniforms.  The Air Force has waivers for certain circumstances, religious observations being one of them.

[SPD6696]

He certainly wasn't Seikh...  Kinda looked like a shorter version of Rob Pincus.

[Pylon]

He certainly wasn't Seikh...

The AF Captain pictured is wearing a Jewish chaplain badge.

[SPD6696]

OK, I didn't bother looking closely at the photo.  Besides, that's AF, not CAP, and kind of irrelevant to the topic.

Regardless, the CAP SM I was referring to (not the Chaplain in the photo), isn't a Chaplain, and is simply sporting a Cool Guy Goatee.   

[Private Investigator]

... is simply sporting a Cool Guy Goatee.

I wonder if members of the Canadien Civil Air Patrol wear cool guy goatee?   

[Майор Хаткевич]

... is simply sporting a Cool Guy Goatee.

I wonder if members of the Canadien Civil Air Patrol wear cool guy goatee?   

They may not, but I bet it's A-OK with the Brazil CAP.

[shoresfinest]

I'm jewish, i have a beard, and i'm in CAP. Since i am married my religion says that the beard is almost as essential as a wedding band. Since CAP does not discriminate, i am allowed to grow a beard. Read into religious allowances, i have a cadet in my squadron that in BDU's wears his yamaka under his bdu cover.

[jimmydeanno]

See, the thing about the beard in AF style uniform in CAP is that it is disallowed.  No religious exception for it, because we have a set of uniforms that beards are allowed in.  We don't discriminate based on religious preferences, but it's expected that those with religious preferences follow our rules by wearing a uniform designed to accommodate them.

[AngelWings]

Then why doesn't big brother make all of those who can't shave in the US Air Force wear a distinct uniform?

[SarDragon]

Then why doesn't big brother make all of those who can't shave wear a distinct uniform?

Well, it's hard to make anything happen.

I have a beard, and wear the prescribed distinct uniform.