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Operations => Tools of the trade => Topic started by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 01:30:42 AM

Title: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 01:30:42 AM
I am in need of a good video maker to use for CAP  official use.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Eeyore on May 28, 2009, 01:31:34 AM
In need of a videographer or video editing software?
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 01:32:28 AM
Quote from: edmo1 on May 28, 2009, 01:31:34 AM
In need of a videographer or video editing software?
Both.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: whatevah on May 28, 2009, 01:53:32 AM
Just use Windows Movie Maker (included free with Windows XP) it has more features than you'll be able to use.    I use MainActor (no longer available) or Premiere when I'm working, but those are fairly complex.  Of course, nothing beats Final Cut Pro but you have to use a Mac for that. :)

As usual, google is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Eclipse on May 28, 2009, 01:54:21 AM
Windows XP and Vista come with Windows Movie Maker,  Macs have iMovie, generally both or either are more than enough for a CAP video.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 01:56:08 AM
Quote from: whatevah on May 28, 2009, 01:53:32 AM
Just use Windows Movie Maker (included free with Windows XP) it has more features than you'll be able to use.    I use MainActor (no longer available) or Premiere when I'm working, but those are fairly complex.  Of course, nothing beats Final Cut Pro but you have to use a Mac for that. :)

As usual, google is your friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software
Do you have to have it on every computer to play or not for Windows Movie Maker?
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: whatevah on May 28, 2009, 01:57:57 AM
well, in order for the computer to play it, it must be on the computer somehow.  Either on a cd or downloaded or something.  However you won't need the editing software to play it after you export it into WMV or whatever format.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Eclipse on May 28, 2009, 02:00:49 AM
and most computers come with the ability to produce a regular video DVD for your television, if not there's plenty of legit freeware to do it.

If you've got money to burn, though, Adobe Premiere rocks!
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: NIN on May 28, 2009, 02:32:22 AM
And don't go snarfing Scott Matthew's footage and passing it off as your own.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: pixelwonk on May 28, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
Further still, don't go snarfing anyone's stuff and passing it off as your own.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
Quote from: tedda on May 28, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
Further still, don't go snarfing anyone's stuff and passing it off as your own.
I got permission for all.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 04:58:15 PM
I would post video only if I knew how to or if I am allowed to.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: IceNine on May 28, 2009, 05:06:39 PM
Host it somewhere on the web like photobucket.  Then link to it here
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: IceNine on May 28, 2009, 05:06:39 PM
Host it somewhere on the web like photobucket.  Then link to it here
i will post a link soon.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Eclipse on May 28, 2009, 05:17:20 PM
You already have an account on Youtube, and they will do the flash encoding for you.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 05:28:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NytyUbQDyac

Rate it on a 1 to 10.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Larry Mangum on May 28, 2009, 07:25:16 PM
-3 Music
-3 Content, ie.. not sure that the pictures really go with the title. 
-3 Pcitures seem to imply that we fly helicopters and C-130's
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: DC on May 28, 2009, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: NIN on May 28, 2009, 02:32:22 AM
And don't go snarfing Scott Matthew's footage and passing it off as your own.
Your video takes the aforementioned individual's footage (and music...) and randomly splices them together from 2:12 onward...

Is there a theme to the first half? Its starts out seeming like ES (BTW: It's 'These things we do, that others may live.' The Pararescue motto, also sorta adopted by the CAP Rangers), but then there are the random pictures of Gen. Courter, the GLR patch, C-130s and the Blue Angels...

I'm not going to assign a rating to it, but there seems to be no overall message or point to it.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 07:35:20 PM
You got permission from Godsmack to use one of their songs? That's impressive.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Pylon on May 28, 2009, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
Quote from: tedda on May 28, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
Further still, don't go snarfing anyone's stuff and passing it off as your own.
I got permission for all.

So when you told us you "got permission for all", you mean you received permission to use the intellectual property of Civil Air Patrol, Inc., the CAP Historical Foundation, Scott Matthews, the United States Navy, Godsmack and everyone else's whose footage, content and photos you used?
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: Pylon on May 28, 2009, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
Quote from: tedda on May 28, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
Further still, don't go snarfing anyone's stuff and passing it off as your own.
I got permission for all.

So when you told us you "got permission for all", you mean you received permission to use the intellectual property of Civil Air Patrol, Inc., the CAP Historical Foundation, Scott Matthews, the United States Navy, Godsmack and everyone else's whose footage, content and photos you used?
yes.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Eclipse on May 28, 2009, 08:18:54 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: Pylon on May 28, 2009, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
Quote from: tedda on May 28, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
Further still, don't go snarfing anyone's stuff and passing it off as your own.
I got permission for all.

So when you told us you "got permission for all", you mean you received permission to use the intellectual property of Civil Air Patrol, Inc., the CAP Historical Foundation, Scott Matthews, the United States Navy, Godsmack and everyone else's whose footage, content and photos you used?
yes.

(http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/images/smilies/BS-Flag.gif)
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: davidsinn on May 28, 2009, 08:20:50 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 28, 2009, 08:18:54 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: Pylon on May 28, 2009, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
Quote from: tedda on May 28, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
Further still, don't go snarfing anyone's stuff and passing it off as your own.
I got permission for all.

So when you told us you "got permission for all", you mean you received permission to use the intellectual property of Civil Air Patrol, Inc., the CAP Historical Foundation, Scott Matthews, the United States Navy, Godsmack and everyone else's whose footage, content and photos you used?
yes.

(http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/images/smilies/BS-Flag.gif)

And he^ would know. He has gone about getting permission from professional musicians. Eclipse put together a cool video when he did.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: pixelwonk on May 28, 2009, 09:04:36 PM
This video satisfies my curiosity of how I always wondered what you'd get if you crossed tater-tot casserole (hotdish for you Minnesotans) + gastroenteritis + Godsmack + a dog who just ate a whole chicken.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: whatevah on May 28, 2009, 09:43:11 PM
video has been removed.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Pylon on May 28, 2009, 09:47:27 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: Pylon on May 28, 2009, 07:36:19 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 03:01:19 PM
Quote from: tedda on May 28, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
Further still, don't go snarfing anyone's stuff and passing it off as your own.
I got permission for all.

So when you told us you "got permission for all", you mean you received permission to use the intellectual property of Civil Air Patrol, Inc., the CAP Historical Foundation, Scott Matthews, the United States Navy, Godsmack and everyone else's whose footage, content and photos you used?
yes.

The Core Values, particularly Integrity, are not just for making pretty posters.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 09:51:22 PM
yes.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 09:51:53 PM
I am making it look better thats all thats why its down.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: davidsinn on May 28, 2009, 09:58:12 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 09:51:53 PM
I am making it look better thats all thats why its down.

You might try removing ALL of the copyrighted material...which should be most of the video judging by the comments here.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: AlphaSigOU on May 28, 2009, 10:28:00 PM
Cadet Williams,

Merely getting verbal permission to use copyrighted material is NOT enough. You MUST secure written permission to use it in your work.

I will give you an example of a copyright notice, this from a book I published a few years ago (emphasis is mine):

QuoteAll Rights Reserved © 2003 by Charles E. Corway. No part of this book may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, graphic, electronic, or mechanical, including photocopying, recording, taping, or by any information storage retrieval system, without the written permission of the publisher.

It hasn't happened to me (knock wood), but you bet your bippy I would be HIGHLY incensed if I found someone plagiarizing my work. The 'cease and desist' letter would follow very shortly.

Membership in an organization such as CAP DOES NOT give ANYONE blanket permission to use CAP's intellectual property.
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: CAP.is.1337 on May 30, 2009, 06:57:18 AM
You need to find free, (as in freedom,) content for your videos. Read about Copyright, Copyleft, Creative Commons, and Public Domain on Wikipedia and then get back to us.

Some "free" CAP content is available on Archive.org and the Wikimedia Commons, but just try to use that as a starting point. Better yet, go shoot your own pics/footage: try for the PAO position at an encampment if you're really interested. (I've got hours of footage taken last year but just haven't had the time to go through. I did go through the nearly 6000 pictures taken by all of us 3 PAO's @ VAWG Encampment 2008, though.)

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=civil%20air%20patrol (http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=civil%20air%20patrol)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&redirs=0&search=civil+air+patrol&limit=500&offset=0 (http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&redirs=0&search=civil+air+patrol&limit=500&offset=0)

Public domain music you can use for backround music is available at Musopen (http://www.musopen.com/music.php).
Title: Re: Video makers for CAP usage.
Post by: BrandonKea on May 30, 2009, 07:32:26 AM
Quote from: CAP.is.1337 on May 30, 2009, 06:57:18 AM
You need to find free, (as in freedom,) content for your videos. Read about Copyright, Copyleft, Creative Commons, and Public Domain on Wikipedia and then get back to us.

Some "free" CAP content is available on Archive.org and the Wikimedia Commons, but just try to use that as a starting point. Better yet, go shoot your own pics/footage: try for the PAO position at an encampment if you're really interested. (I've got hours of footage taken last year but just haven't had the time to go through. I did go through the nearly 6000 pictures taken by all of us 3 PAO's @ VAWG Encampment 2008, though.)

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=civil%20air%20patrol (http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=civil%20air%20patrol)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&redirs=0&search=civil+air+patrol&limit=500&offset=0 (http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&ns0=1&ns6=1&ns12=1&ns14=1&redirs=0&search=civil+air+patrol&limit=500&offset=0)

Public domain music you can use for backround music is available at Musopen (http://www.musopen.com/music.php).

Just make sure you obtain a signed release for using these people's likenesses on the internet.

A lot goes in to playing by the rules...