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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: ♠SARKID♠ on March 28, 2009, 02:50:10 AM

Title: Tailoring Prices
Post by: ♠SARKID♠ on March 28, 2009, 02:50:10 AM
I was just given a service dress coat that was about a size to a size+1/2 too small.  I'm looking at having it tailored to fit (its really hard to get this size).  I just wanted to know what a reasonable price would be for having the seams let out.  I've seen a few figures but I don't know where the value vs. quality line exists.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: Hawk200 on March 28, 2009, 03:00:31 AM
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on March 28, 2009, 02:50:10 AM
I was just given a service dress coat that was about a size to a size+1/2 too small.  I'm looking at having it tailored to fit (its really hard to get this size).  I just wanted to know what a reasonable price would be for having the seams let out.  I've seen a few figures but I don't know where the value vs. quality line exists.

With service coat, it's not really practical. Shirts being tailored down are one thing, but sizing up is a lot more difficult. The old seam lines tend to show, and it doesn't look right.

I know it stinks, but you might be better off going to a thirift shop on an AF base, or checking eBay for a coat. It would probably be more inexpensive from those sources than tailoring would be.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: ♠SARKID♠ on March 28, 2009, 03:06:29 AM
If you can find a size 51 coat, let me know.  I've been trying for five years and fate just handed me a 50.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: Hawk200 on March 28, 2009, 03:26:41 AM
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on March 28, 2009, 03:06:29 AM
If you can find a size 51 coat, let me know.  I've been trying for five years and fate just handed me a 50.

I'll see what I can find. 51? That's pretty good sized.

It stinks, but letting things out never goes well with formal clothing such as the service coat. As I said, taking them in is easy, letting out is harder. My mother was a seamstress, and always had problems with letting things out.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: DBlair on March 28, 2009, 03:40:44 AM
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on March 28, 2009, 03:06:29 AM
If you can find a size 51 coat, let me know.  I've been trying for five years and fate just handed me a 50.

I was helping my Squadron logistics officer organize some stuff recently and I believe I may have seen a coat of that size. Size 51 S? R? L? If my unit does indeed have it, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: CadetProgramGuy on March 28, 2009, 04:00:05 AM
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on March 28, 2009, 03:06:29 AM
If you can find a size 51 coat, let me know.  I've been trying for five years and fate just handed me a 50.

Crud.  I have been looking for a 50 for a while.  To bad it's a Cadet service coat.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: Hawk200 on March 28, 2009, 04:28:17 AM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on March 28, 2009, 04:00:05 AM
To bad it's a Cadet service coat.

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Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: ♠SARKID♠ on March 28, 2009, 04:36:13 AM
Quote from: DBlair on March 28, 2009, 03:40:44 AM
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on March 28, 2009, 03:06:29 AM
If you can find a size 51 coat, let me know.  I've been trying for five years and fate just handed me a 50.

I was helping my Squadron logistics officer organize some stuff recently and I believe I may have seen a coat of that size. Size 51 S? R? L? If my unit does indeed have it, I'll let you know.

51 long if you have it.  51 1/2 would be phenomenal but I know how much that's asking, I'll take what I can get.  Thanks very much!
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: Cecil DP on March 28, 2009, 05:00:37 AM
You do realize that if you're over 18 years old, you fall under the senior height/weight standards and may not be able to wear that coat.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: CadetProgramGuy on March 28, 2009, 06:11:53 AM
Quote from: Hawk200 on March 28, 2009, 04:28:17 AM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on March 28, 2009, 04:00:05 AM
To bad it's a Cadet service coat.

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Cadets wear the "Enlisted Service Jacket" while the Officers (Senior Members) wear the Officer Service Jacket.  Thats why its unfortunate for me.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: notaNCO forever on March 28, 2009, 11:46:18 AM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on March 28, 2009, 06:11:53 AM
Quote from: Hawk200 on March 28, 2009, 04:28:17 AM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on March 28, 2009, 04:00:05 AM
To bad it's a Cadet service coat.
???

Cadets wear the "Enlisted Service Jacket" while the Officers (Senior Members) wear the Officer Service Jacket.  Thats why its unfortunate for me.

I'm pretty sure that is a gray area; the majority of cadets I know have the service coats with the epaulets.  If we are not supposed to have the ones with the epaulets please tell me how to mount the shoulder cords made to be worn with epaulets. The cadets can wear the old style jackets but not seniors; that is the only difference I know of.

On topic I have to agree; I've never seen a good job on letting something out on a jacket.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: Hawk200 on March 28, 2009, 01:09:01 PM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on March 28, 2009, 06:11:53 AM
Quote from: Hawk200 on March 28, 2009, 04:28:17 AM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on March 28, 2009, 04:00:05 AM
To bad it's a Cadet service coat.
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Cadets wear the "Enlisted Service Jacket" while the Officers (Senior Members) wear the Officer Service Jacket.  Thats why its unfortunate for me.

That's one of the problems with the rewrites with 39-1. The previous release stated that cadets could wear either. The only reference to it now is in the Honor Guard section of 39-1 that states "service dress uniform coat with epaulets", and a little further down says "Either the old or new style of service dress may be worn; however, all members of an honor guard should be in the same style, if possible."

It was put out before that cadets could wear the newer style service dress with epaulets, but I don't recall if it was a supp or an ICL on it. That might be in files I have back home, but don't have copies on my laptop.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: arajca on March 28, 2009, 01:30:50 PM
Another issue of 'upsizing' a jacket is whether there is sufficient material in the jacket to do so. Most jackets I have seen (former tailor here), have a minimal seam allowance. Usually, just enough material is left to ensure the strength of the seam, more is wasteful.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: DC on March 28, 2009, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: NCO forever on March 28, 2009, 11:46:18 AM
If we are not supposed to have the ones with the epaulets please tell me how to mount the shoulder cords made to be worn with epaulets.

You don't. If you want to wear a shoulder cord with the Enlisted Service Coat you have to get one of the full braid, pin on style cords.
Title: Re: Tailoring Prices
Post by: Eclipse on March 28, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
AAFES sells USAF service coats up to 52 Long.  I know, I have one.   Whether they are available today or not, you'd have to check.

As to the tailoring, expect to probably pay at least $25-50 for a decent job.  Also, if this is an older cadet service coat, its likely that the center seam has been sewn so long that letting it out will show a stripe down your back of different colored material or an unpressable crease.