CAP Talk

General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: Eclipse on November 02, 2021, 09:50:37 PM

Title: Oh Vanguard, My Vanguard, how we love you!
Post by: Eclipse on November 02, 2021, 09:50:37 PM
This won't cause any confusion at all!

(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZYFNR7W/duh.jpg)

https://www.vanguardmil.com/pages/civil-air-patrol-collection

(When you go to the correct URL and click "Ribbons", all you get are CGAux stuff. You
have to scroll below the fold to find the CAP ribbons.  UI design is easy, it's testing that is hard!)
Title: Re: Oh Vanguard, My Vanguard, how we love you!
Post by: NIN on November 02, 2021, 11:00:10 PM
Also,  when a new member buys ribbons, the site helpfully tells you that others have bought ribbon racks at the same time.

"Oh,  cool. Thanks Vanguard. Glad you told me that."

Except: the ribbon racks recommended are often the 1/8" spacing racks. If you've never bought a ribbon rack before,  you don't know there is a difference. Until you show up at an activity and your wing commander says "oh,  uh, hey..."
Title: Re: Oh Vanguard, My Vanguard, how we love you!
Post by: Fubar on November 03, 2021, 05:21:55 AM
So what are CAP Inc's options? They (we) need a vendor who is familiar with military uniform items and is willing to carry all the little-used and rarely-purchased doodads. CAP will probably want to keep their kick-backs too.

Other than Vanguard, are there any other vendors out there CAP could shop this contract to?
Title: Re: Oh Vanguard, My Vanguard, how we love you!
Post by: GroundHawg on November 03, 2021, 11:51:44 AM
Quote from: Fubar on November 03, 2021, 05:21:55 AMSo what are CAP Inc's options? They (we) need a vendor who is familiar with military uniform items and is willing to carry all the little-used and rarely-purchased doodads. CAP will probably want to keep their kick-backs too.

Other than Vanguard, are there any other vendors out there CAP could shop this contract to?

I would be down for Marlow White. I have never had a bad experience with them and I am picky
Title: Re: Oh Vanguard, My Vanguard, how we love you!
Post by: PHall on November 03, 2021, 04:10:03 PM
On Vanguard's main page, if you pull down the BRANCH pull down to CIVIL AIR PATROL and select it you will only see CAP stuff displayed. No confusion at all.
Title: Re: Oh Vanguard, My Vanguard, how we love you!
Post by: Eclipse on November 03, 2021, 04:22:07 PM
Quote from: PHall on November 03, 2021, 04:10:03 PMOn Vanguard's main page, if you pull down the BRANCH pull down to CIVIL AIR PATROL and select it you will only see CAP stuff displayed. No confusion at all.

Not from there - if you go to "Civil Air Patrol Store", which is how it's been marketed
and indicated for ages, you get to the correct URL and the incorrect items.

The website was updated, as they are, and someone signed off testing early. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Oh Vanguard, My Vanguard, how we love you!
Post by: Eclipse on November 03, 2021, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: Fubar on November 03, 2021, 05:21:55 AMSo what are CAP Inc's options? They (we) need a vendor who is familiar with military uniform items and is willing to carry all the little-used and rarely-purchased doodads. CAP will probably want to keep their kick-backs too.

Other than Vanguard, are there any other vendors out there CAP could shop this contract to?

Well, there was another one that is no more (not that I was a specific fan), and these days, from what I
see in the newspaper, there seems to be an emerging Asian country with excess manufacturing and
compelling prices - may CAP should check it out!

And before you shout "But Made in 'Merica" - VG has had no compunction to selling knock off
uniforms items, so that issue is off the table.
Title: Re: Oh Vanguard, My Vanguard, how we love you!
Post by: Shuman 14 on November 03, 2021, 05:12:19 PM
USAMM carries Civil Air Patrol Ribbons.

Their order of precedence  is off when building a rack with Military and Foreign Decorations included and doesn't have a CAP only option for the AFOEA (i.e. two different locations) but they do make quality ribbon racks.

https://ezrackbuilder.usamm.com/rack-builder/select-branch (https://ezrackbuilder.usamm.com/rack-builder/select-branch)
Title: Re: Oh Vanguard, My Vanguard, how we love you!
Post by: Eclipse on November 03, 2021, 05:42:08 PM
EZR is apparently the source for VG thin ribbons as well - odds are that's where
EZR is getting their source ribbons.

(https://i.postimg.cc/wxL5qBNH/thin.jpg)