Fingerprints for new members

[Shuman 14]

Is anyone aware of National rejecting fingerprint cards that were printed from a LiveScan station?

When I joined, I when to a local vendor, paid $25.00, got two cards (FBI FB-258) printed and they entered all the data needed on it for Maxwell to process them.

I sent them in without issue and I was approved for Membership.

We had a prospective member come in last night and my Squadron commander insisted that he had to do an old ink and roll fingerprint cards. He said National does not accept LiveScan.

Needless to say, they were pretty jacked up. Did four copies just to be safe and we got ink everywhere.

Can anyone confirm or deny this rejection of LineScan?

[baronet68]

Let me get you a definitive answer on this. 

[miked95]

Did livescan for me and wasn't rejected earlier this year.

[TheSkyHornet]

I've been told that we need to use the paper cards, of which I ordered an additional stock from NHQ earlier this summer.

CAPR 39-2 states that you must use National's paper card:

3.2.2 --- The screening process requires that the individual complete a FBI fingerprint card used by National Headquarters to request a FBI criminal records check to determine membership eligibility.

It goes on to discuss the process for sending the card in with the CAPF 12 application.

This might be an area to improve the regulation and clarify the requirements, if electronic submissions are now considered acceptable.

[baronet68]

NHQ has no preference for the ink and roll prints vs LiveScan printed cards. 

We can accept LiveScan prints if they are "printed" on an FD 258.   What we CANNOT accept is the LiveScan electronic print submission.  We just don't have a way to transmit the prints electronically.

[TheSkyHornet]

NHQ has no preference for the ink and roll prints vs LiveScan printed cards. 

We can accept LiveScan prints if they are "printed" on an FD 258.   What we CANNOT accept is the LiveScan electronic print submission.  We just don't have a way to transmit the prints electronically.

Clears up my questions. Excellent.

[Shuman 14]

NHQ has no preference for the ink and roll prints vs LiveScan printed cards. 

We can accept LiveScan prints if they are "printed" on an FD 258.   What we CANNOT accept is the LiveScan electronic print submission.  We just don't have a way to transmit the prints electronically.

Thank you, I thought that was the correct answer.

[Pinecone]

FYI, I used a printed from scanner print card for my membership back in September.  It was accepted.

In MD, if you go to the State Police, this is how they do fingerprint cards.  Scan and printer onto the standard card.