INWG Conference: AF approved ABU transition

Started by Майор Хаткевич, March 19, 2016, 01:14:40 PM

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Майор Хаткевич

Just arrived to the conference, this was the slide on the board.


THRAWN

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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: THRAWN on March 19, 2016, 01:27:40 PM
I will believe it when it is in writing....

Agreed, but the Nat. Vice Commander is here, so I don't think someone just made it up.

NIN

No, probably not.

It may be a semantic difference.  Don't forget, sometimes people truncate things to fit on PPT slides.

However, if I had to bet on what happened, it would be something like "CAP-USAF got the word that HAF actually hacked off on it, and we're just waiting on the administrative paperwork to come from the Pentagon."

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lordmonar

Quote from: NIN on March 19, 2016, 02:10:07 PM
No, probably not.

It may be a semantic difference.  Don't forget, sometimes people truncate things to fit on PPT slides.

However, if I had to bet on what happened, it would be something like "CAP-USAF got the word that HAF actually hacked off on it, and we're just waiting on the administrative paperwork to come from the Pentagon."
That is almost word for word what the slide says.

PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

NIN

Quote from: lordmonar on March 19, 2016, 02:18:15 PM
Quote from: NIN on March 19, 2016, 02:10:07 PM
No, probably not.

It may be a semantic difference.  Don't forget, sometimes people truncate things to fit on PPT slides.

However, if I had to bet on what happened, it would be something like "CAP-USAF got the word that HAF actually hacked off on it, and we're just waiting on the administrative paperwork to come from the Pentagon."
That is almost word for word what the slide says.

Now that I look at it, the slide says more than what I typed. NVM.  Carry on.

If Gen Myrick is there, I'm pretty sure that this is correct :)

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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: NIN on March 19, 2016, 02:20:20 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on March 19, 2016, 02:18:15 PM
Quote from: NIN on March 19, 2016, 02:10:07 PM
No, probably not.

It may be a semantic difference.  Don't forget, sometimes people truncate things to fit on PPT slides.

However, if I had to bet on what happened, it would be something like "CAP-USAF got the word that HAF actually hacked off on it, and we're just waiting on the administrative paperwork to come from the Pentagon."
That is almost word for word what the slide says.

Now that I look at it, the slide says more than what I typed. NVM.  Carry on.

If Gen Myrick is there, I'm pretty sure that this is correct :)


AF LtCol for GLR CAP-USAF is also here. So far a great event, lots of breakouts, and even a Spaatz presentation!

PHall

And just like BDU's, there are two types of ABU. The regular ABU and the Ripstop ABU (aka RABU). The RABU is the lighter "Summer" version. They can't be mixed.

Angus

Did they say anything about a time table for implementation?  Looks like after my comments recently I need a nice serving of crow. 
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Director Education & Training MAWG 
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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Member Who on March 19, 2016, 04:45:32 PM
Did they say anything about a time table for implementation?  Looks like after my comments recently I need a nice serving of crow.

Whenever the AF send written directions, I'm sure they'll publish the timelines.

abdsp51

Funny how this hasn't been announced to the populace...

NCRblues

Side bar from the uniforms.

The last two points on that slide are oddly worded, no?

What is overlap with a CAC? Changing its term?

I thought we already had an entire regulation filled with our organizational chart?
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lordmonar

Quote from: abdsp51 on March 19, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
Funny how this hasn't been announced to the populace...
Which part of "waiting for written authorization"  didn't you understand?
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

lordmonar

Quote from: NCRblues on March 19, 2016, 05:30:18 PM
Side bar from the uniforms.

The last two points on that slide are oddly worded, no?

What is overlap with a CAC? Changing its term?

I thought we already had an entire regulation filled with our organizational chart?

20-1 has been in a re-write for over a year.   I guess they finally made some progress.

Don't know on the CAC except maybe they mean that the terms at each echelon overlap....instead of all being replaced at the same time.
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abdsp51

Quote from: lordmonar on March 19, 2016, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: abdsp51 on March 19, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
Funny how this hasn't been announced to the populace...
Which part of "waiting for written authorization"  didn't you understand?

No misunderstanding.   You and I both know Ma Blue does not move that fast on anything...  A quick blurb saying it's been approved and we are waiting further guidance would be/have been a smart move.  A quick blurb in Eservices or even capmembers.com would have sufficed or better yet even an email like when they announced a proposal was being sent. 

How many members are now going to go buy a set of ABUS now with this being out in one wing and the rest are potentially scratching their heads... 



lordmonar

Quote from: abdsp51 on March 19, 2016, 06:11:35 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on March 19, 2016, 06:03:22 PM
Quote from: abdsp51 on March 19, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
Funny how this hasn't been announced to the populace...
Which part of "waiting for written authorization"  didn't you understand?

No misunderstanding.   You and I both know Ma Blue does not move that fast on anything...  A quick blurb saying it's been approved and we are waiting further guidance would be/have been a smart move.  A quick blurb in Eservices or even capmembers.com would have sufficed or better yet even an email like when they announced a proposal was being sent. 

How many members are now going to go buy a set of ABUS now with this being out in one wing and the rest are potentially scratching their heads...
And?  Should be Zero....including those at the ILWG conference.   Because that is what waiting for written authorization means.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

Angus

Personally I'm waiting for the announcement only for the change in name tape color.  Figure that dark blue with silver will look great on the BBDU.
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ProdigalJim

Except it won't look great because Vanguard will be our only manufacturing source.
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PHall

Quote from: ProdigalJim on March 20, 2016, 11:49:07 PM
Except it won't look great because Vanguard will be our only manufacturing source.

AAFES makes CAP Name and Branch Tapes. And they won't get a C&D letter either! >:D

lordmonar

Quote from: PHall on March 21, 2016, 04:03:45 AM
Quote from: ProdigalJim on March 20, 2016, 11:49:07 PM
Except it won't look great because Vanguard will be our only manufacturing source.

AAFES makes CAP Name and Branch Tapes. And they won't get a C&D letter either! >:D
Nametapes.com still makes thems.   Vanguard only has the monopoly on CAP badges......not silver on navy tapes.....and never has.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP