BoG vacancy

[RiverAux]

Vacancy announced in at-large position on CAP Board of Governors

Applications sought as 4-year post becomes open Aug. 24, Pineda notes
March 30, 2007

NATIONAL HEADQUARTERS -- One of two four-year, at-large positions on Civil Air Patrol's 11-member Board of Governors will become vacant Aug. 24, Gen. Antonio J. Pineda, national commander, announced March 30.

The at-large positions account for two of the four board positions occupied by CAP members, with the other two positions occupied by the national commander and national vice commander. Of the remaining seven members, four are appointed by the secretary of the Air Force and the other three are appointed jointly by the secretary of the Air Force and the national commander.

To be eligible to serve on the board, a CAP member must:

be a senior member in good standing.
hold a CAP grade of major or above.
have earned the Paul E. Garber Award (given to senior members who complete Level IV of the Senior Member Training Program).
have been a CAP member for at least five years.

Senior members may nominate themselves. CAP corporate officers may apply, but if selected, must resign as a corporate officer before accepting the board position.

Interested members should submit a letter requesting consideration with an attached CAP resume (other qualifications that have a direct relationship to CAP may be included). Requests must be postmarked no later than May 1 and sent to the National Executive Committee through HQ CAP/DP to:

HQ CAP/DP
Attn: BOG Nominations
105 South Hansell Street
Maxwell AFB AL 36112-6332

The National Executive Committee will review all requests for consideration.

Additional information or assistance may be obtained from Susan P. Parker by telephone at (877) 227-9142, ext. 212, by fax at (334) 953-4262 or by e-mail at sparker@capnhq.gov.

Okay, here is your chance to fix some problems....

[JohnKachenmeister]

My letter of self-nomination may well be the first to arrive.

(But I doubt it.)

[DNall]

Hey I'd second that motion, a little balance & fortitude is just what this org needs. I bet some of these reviews are pretty dang funny, and I bet they don't happen in public view.

[NEBoom]

Holy Moley, I'm qualified!

[bosshawk]

then, what are you waiting for?  The black van with the blanked out windows to pull up to your house?

I don't believe that I am qualified: 30 years in the Army, retired Colonel, Company Commander in the Army, instructor at the Army Intel School,  staff officer in the Pentagon, Army Command and General Staff College, Air War College, Masters Degree, Sq CC twice in CAP, Wing Staff, MPS, MS, Msn Check Pilot, but no level three or four.

Dang.

[SAR-EMT1]

then, what are you waiting for?  The black van with the blanked out windows to pull up to your house?

I don't believe that I am qualified: 30 years in the Army, retired Colonel, Company Commander in the Army, instructor at the Army Intel School,  staff officer in the Pentagon, Army Command and General Staff College, Air War College, Masters Degree, Sq CC twice in CAP, Wing Staff, MPS, MS, Msn Check Pilot, but no level three or four.

Dang.

With respect Col. But how can you have all that and NOT level 3 or 4?

[DNall]

With respect Col. But how can you have all that and NOT level 3 or 4?

Well just guessing here, but most of the stuff he listed was outside CAP or related to outside flight experience. He could be only a couple years in the org & still have all that. On the other hand, he could have been in CAP for 30 years & why bother with the PD program. I mean you can't get promoted past LtCol from it & he's already got that covered from mil grade, and the intrensic value of doing the PME for instance is pretty well covered already. I'm sure he's already got an impressive stack of ribbons without needing any help from CAP. So what's the point when time is at a premium? I mean granted he could sit down with a good PD officer &  cross over enough credit to cover most of the requirements, but it doesn't sound like that's been a high priority so far.

[Major Carrales]

then, what are you waiting for?  The black van with the blanked out windows to pull up to your house?

I don't believe that I am qualified: 30 years in the Army, retired Colonel, Company Commander in the Army, instructor at the Army Intel School,  staff officer in the Pentagon, Army Command and General Staff College, Air War College, Masters Degree, Sq CC twice in CAP, Wing Staff, MPS, MS, Msn Check Pilot, but no level three or four.

Dang.

With respect Col. But how can you have all that and NOT level 3 or 4?

The Lt Col, aka Bosshawk, is the real deal all the way around.  Plus, he is an honorable man who has extended his knowledge/expertise well beyond his Wing.  I don't think he is to be made to answer to us about his professional development in CAP...he is obviously of the "been there done that" school.  I respect that...without disclaimers and with all sincerity.

[DNall]

He wasn't quizzing him on it or anything, just curious. Takes a second sometimes for people to think outside the box of their own CAP experience. No big deal.

[Major_Chuck]

I self nominated myself a few years ago but lost out to Rick Bowling.  This was right after his term as National Commander ended.

In my opinion it is all ready determined who they want on the BoG.  Just a mere formality to let the peons in CAP throw their hats in the ring.

[BillB]

You can almost place a winning bet the vacancy will be filled by a former Region/Wing commander, or a previous corporate officer of some type. They need to put up a sign:

                                                    LtCol and below need not apply

[LtCol White]

then, what are you waiting for?  The black van with the blanked out windows to pull up to your house?

I don't believe that I am qualified: 30 years in the Army, retired Colonel, Company Commander in the Army, instructor at the Army Intel School,  staff officer in the Pentagon, Army Command and General Staff College, Air War College, Masters Degree, Sq CC twice in CAP, Wing Staff, MPS, MS, Msn Check Pilot, but no level three or four.

Dang.

Clearly, you are not qualified......

[JohnKachenmeister]

Didn't attend enough conferences, right?

[LtCol White]

Didn't attend enough conferences, right?

He doesn't indicate that he has his CAP SR Member Certificate of Proficiency!!!

[bosshawk]

Just to try to set the record straight(I know, it won't work with this crew), I have done CLC, SLS, Unit CC Course, have been to more Wing Conferences than I like to admit, have instructed at CLC and SLS, have two distress finds and who knows how many non-distress finds.  I just never found it a priority to pursue the various levels: still don't find that very much of a priority for me.  I am quite secure in my abilities and accomplishments and don't feel like spending time to justify them to others.

As someone pointed out, ribbons are not much of a priority to me: been there and done that to my satisfaction.  If you want a listing of my decorations, I can PM them if you ask and they are important to you.  I never wear my ribbons, CAP or military.

My priority is, and always has been, to be of service to my country and to my fellow Americans.  30 years in the Army, a civilian career at the CIA and now 15 years in CAP pretty well summarize my life since college and grad school.

Hope that this settles the issues raised.  I have no ego and don't want it stroked(makes me nervous).

I made the statement on this thread as a tongue-in-cheek thing and got just about what I expected.

I will continue to post when and if I think it appropriate.  Thanks for the opportunity.

[DNall]

I think everyone understands it's a joke that anyone from the field would be sleected regardless of how well qualified.

However, it does sound like you've probably done everything but the paperwork for the levels. I don't think you should put in the 24a for ego, more ribbons, or credibility with anyone that cares who has a GRW. I'd just do it cause it's there & forget about it.

[SAR-EMT1]

I just want to apoligize in case I offended anyone.

[lordmonar]

I think it is bad that he has to put in any paperwork at all.  His PDO and Admin Officer should be checking records and when they see someone who has finished all the requirements, they should do the paperwork themselves.  Same with promotions.  The PDO should be doing this anyway...because one of his jobs is to encourage his squadron members to continue their PD and complete the various levels.

Not a hit on Bosshawk...he is probably just the type we really want on the BoG.

[DNall]

^ granted, on both counts, but how often does it happen that way?

[JohnKachenmeister]

Like we used to be told in the Army:  "Ultimately, you must be your own personnel officer."