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Title: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: NC Hokie on June 20, 2008, 12:21:44 PM
Does anyone have the Gerber Evader hydration pack shown here?
http://www.opticsplanet.net/gerber-gear-1012.html

I'm looking for a general purpose pack that can double as a 24 pack and it looks as if this might do the trick, but I'd like some idea of it's capacity as well as it's internal layout before dropping $60.00 plus on it.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: DC on June 20, 2008, 12:32:28 PM
100oz for the resevoir, 755 cubic inches of cargo volume.
Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: NC Hokie on June 20, 2008, 12:43:16 PM
Quote from: DC on June 20, 2008, 12:32:28 PM
100oz for the resevoir, 755 cubic inches of cargo volume.

I can read. ;D  The problem is that I really have no idea if 755 cubic inches is big enough for a 24 hour pack.  My current loadout is a MOLLE vest w/ two canteens, a MOLLE butt pack, and a pair of SAW ammo pouches (about the same size as the old M-16 ammo pouches).  It works, but it's cumbersome and hot, which is why I'm looking into other options.
Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: Eclipse on June 20, 2008, 12:57:59 PM
1 quart = 32 Oz.

2 canteens = 64 oz.

This Hydro has 100oz.

Therefore it carries the equivalent of 3 canteens of water.

Edit:  OK, RTFP - who makes the butt pack and ammo carts?  MOLLE is just an attachment system, not a standard.  Placing everything behind you, hard to reach, may not be the best idea.  Its convieienvt for storage and then becomes a PITA in use when yo have to keep stopping and pulling down your pack.  I'm a big SARMED vest fan (though I have a tactical vest, too), and the best system I ever had was an E-LBV with a seperate hydro.
Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: NC Hokie on June 20, 2008, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on June 20, 2008, 12:57:59 PM
Edit:  OK, RTFP - who makes the butt pack and ammo carts?  MOLLE is just an attachment system, not a standard.  Placing everything behind you, hard to reach, may not be the best idea.  Its convieienvt for storage and then becomes a PITA in use when yo have to keep stopping and pulling down your pack.  I'm a big SARMED vest fan (though I have a tactical vest, too), and the best system I ever had was an E-LBV with a seperate hydro.

The kit is at home but it's all SDS stuff...zip up MOLLE II vest, current issue MOLLE butt/waist pack, etc.  I'm sensitive to the need for easy access to some items but figure that I can hang the SAW ammo pouches (or something similar) on the waist belt of the Gerber pack to take care of that.

I've considered the E-LBV but have concerns about heat retention (which is why I'm considering a move away from my MOLLE rig).  What's your experience with this?
Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: NIN on June 20, 2008, 02:54:02 PM
24 hr gear is probably going to need more than 700 cubes.

I have a CamelBak BFM and it doesn't even fit everything I think I need. :)

Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: Eclipse on June 20, 2008, 03:00:15 PM
LBV's are basically open and the one I have is mesh / vented so heat was never an issue - the "e" stands for enhanced, which basically meant that the pockets were slanted - and that does make a big difference.

I currently had a full blackhawk tactical rig and a sarmed type, and can't remember the last time the tactical vest came out of the container.


Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: NIN on June 20, 2008, 04:54:38 PM
Ahhh, took me a bit to find this:

http://www.sarcamp.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=146

Orange LBE & pack!
Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: jimmydeanno on June 20, 2008, 05:17:09 PM
Quote from: NIN on June 20, 2008, 04:54:38 PM
Ahhh, took me a bit to find this:

http://www.sarcamp.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=146

Orange LBE & pack!

That is freakin' awesome, I like it!  Do you have any feedback on it?  Know anyone that uses it?
Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: Eclipse on June 20, 2008, 05:24:52 PM
We've got a few people who use it around here, nothing wrong with it, but a far cry from what we're talking about here.

This is basically a buttpack and a backpack, not tactical gear.
Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: _ on June 20, 2008, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on June 20, 2008, 05:17:09 PM
Quote from: NIN on June 20, 2008, 04:54:38 PM
Ahhh, took me a bit to find this:

http://www.sarcamp.com/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=146

Orange LBE & pack!

That is freakin' awesome, I like it!  Do you have any feedback on it?  Know anyone that uses it?

Quite a few people on the civilian SAR team I'm a member of use the other version of that pack, the top load pack.  In general they like it.  They pack the necessities for field work (food, water, etc) in the butt pack and put everything else in the pack.  That way they can ditch the pack if they don't need all that junk.  I'd suggest looking at the website of the people that make the pack: The Pack Shack (http://www.thepackshack.com/). 
Title: Re: Gerber Evader Hydration Pack
Post by: ♠SARKID♠ on June 20, 2008, 11:46:29 PM
755 should be sufficient space.  I use a Camelback MULE Max Gear (http://www.niceshot.net/webstore/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=423) which only has 540 cubic inches and I can fit almost everything on the required GT equipment list in the pack.  I could fit a lot more if I didn't carry a radio and scanner in the bottom pocket.