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Title: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: Cadet CJS on June 15, 2015, 09:54:22 PM
Hello All.
I am a C/SSgt in a strugeling squadron. I have chosen to transfer to a near by squadron. I will be telling my Cadet Deputy Commander about my decision next Monday at our meeting. Does anyone have any advice for talking to my DCC? The reason I'm leaving is our Squadron is on the verge of falling apart but I feel disrespectful telling my DCC that. Any advice would be welcome.
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: Storm Chaser on June 15, 2015, 09:58:13 PM
Just be honest and upfront. As long as you're respectful about it, they'll appreciate the feedback.
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: EMT-83 on June 15, 2015, 10:42:15 PM
Since your unit is posted in your profile, he might already know.
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: abdsp51 on June 16, 2015, 12:40:09 AM
Bear in mind too the losing CC does not have to approve the transfer either.
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: lordmonar on June 16, 2015, 12:52:19 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on June 16, 2015, 12:40:09 AM
Bear in mind too the losing CC does not have to approve the transfer either.
He's got to have cause to deny the transfer....but yes.

Cadet CJS,

Be honest, be respectful.  Should not be a problem.

Remember to get a copy of your personnel file before you transfer.

Good Luck.

[edited fot chang personal to personnel]
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: Cadet CJS on June 16, 2015, 12:56:27 AM
Thank you for all the advice. What is a personal file?
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: MSG Mac on June 16, 2015, 12:58:21 AM
Quote from: Cadet CJS on June 16, 2015, 12:56:27 AM
Thank you for all the advice. What is a personal file?

Your records which are maintained by your Squadron
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: GroundHawg on June 16, 2015, 10:28:23 PM
Quote from: Cadet CJS on June 16, 2015, 12:56:27 AM
Thank you for all the advice. What is a personal file?

The fact that a C/SSgt does not know this....

As others have said, honesty is always your best plan. Be polite, be professional, be prepared to answer awkward questions.
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: Holding Pattern on June 16, 2015, 11:56:47 PM
Quote from: GroundHawg on June 16, 2015, 10:28:23 PM
Quote from: Cadet CJS on June 16, 2015, 12:56:27 AM
Thank you for all the advice. What is a personal file?

The fact that a C/SSgt does not know this....
This is an issue in many squadrons. I'll point out there are many senior members on this board that have bemoaned the loss of their file, in many cases simply because no one told them about it.
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: Alaric on June 17, 2015, 10:08:40 AM
Quote from: Starfleet Auxiliary on June 16, 2015, 11:56:47 PM
Quote from: GroundHawg on June 16, 2015, 10:28:23 PM
Quote from: Cadet CJS on June 16, 2015, 12:56:27 AM
Thank you for all the advice. What is a personal file?

The fact that a C/SSgt does not know this....
This is an issue in many squadrons. I'll point out there are many senior members on this board that have bemoaned the loss of their file, in many cases simply because no one told them about it.

Perhaps the C/SSgt didn't recognize the term personal file as it is a personnel file
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: Paul_AK on June 18, 2015, 12:01:11 AM
I'll echo what everyone else has said and just be honest and up front, but stay respectful. And please do remember your paperwork, as others have also stressed. I neglected to grab mine during a PCS while in the Air Force and by the time I was able to call back to the wing mine had already been misplaced. So, all of my mission numbers and a good amount of other information going back to my Cadets days is gone for good.
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on June 18, 2015, 12:09:15 AM
Alaric-

Lord correctly stated personnel file.

Quote

Remember to get a copy of your personnel file before you transfer.


It was the cadet the one changing personnel to personal. It was not Lord!

Which again points to something that should be basic knowledge by cadets at that achievement.

In the squadrons I have been, the Personnel/Admin officer has a cadet working on the personnel files under his/her supervision. If not naming a Cadet Personnel Officer or NCO.

[Added after rereading Lords' message]

Sorry, apparently he made a typo then fixed. Do not know if the cadet responded to the original message with the typo or after his correction. If the cadet in question did responded to the original message I am wrong.

Still, cadets should become familiar with this administrative aspect as well...
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: HGjunkie on June 18, 2015, 12:11:51 AM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on June 18, 2015, 12:09:15 AM
Alaric-

Lord correctly stated personnel file.

Quote

Remember to get a copy of your personnel file before you transfer.


It was the cadet the one changing personnel to personal. It was not Lord!

Which again points to something that should be basic knowledge by cadets at that achievement.

In the squadrons I have been, the Personnel/Admin officer has a cadet working on the personnel files under his/her supervision. If not naming a Cadet Personnel Officer or NCO.

It was edited to personnel after the cadet already posted.
Title: Re: Transferring Squadrons
Post by: lordmonar on June 18, 2015, 12:53:10 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 16, 2015, 12:52:19 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on June 16, 2015, 12:40:09 AM
Bear in mind too the losing CC does not have to approve the transfer either.
He's got to have cause to deny the transfer....but yes.

Cadet CJS,

Be honest, be respectful.  Should not be a problem.

Remember to get a copy of your personnel file before you transfer.

Good Luck.

[edited to change personal to personnel]