Just out of curiosity, what is the deal with the phrase "Missions for America?" I mean, I realize that's what we do, but I went to a day-long CAP event recently and heard this said practically every other sentence and I see it a hundred times on CAP websites and quoted from Maj. Gen. Pineda.
Soooo....does anyone else think that this is way overused? Also, it is often capitalized (Missions, that is). Is this some official slogan? Personally I would like to see a new one used, perhaps a more creative one.
Just wondering, I'm not trying to start anything, so if this is a hot topic or anything, consider this my disclaimer. ;D
The real question is What missions for America?
It was the replacement mantra for the long time PAO phrase... "America's Best Kept Secret." I remember directives calling for the end of the "best kept" phrase as it suggested a "private flying club mentality" in favor of one that was "more service oriented."
It may allude to a desire to preform missions beyond and addition to those as the USAF Auxiliary.
In the marketing business it's called branding. A catchy phrase that your customers can readily associate with the organization. Please tell me that "best kept secret" was just a joke and not our real brand.
I don't know if it was "official" but it was used very regularly in all sorts of ways by CAP.
The Performing Missions for America statement is better but is still a pretty bad "brand". Okay, so it says we're doing some sort of public service but is so unspecific I don't think it really does us any good. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to think of a better one myself....
Quote from: RiverAux on November 19, 2006, 02:36:16 PM
I don't know if it was "official" but it was used very regularly in all sorts of ways by CAP.
The Performing Missions for America statement is better but is still a pretty bad "brand". Okay, so it says we're doing some sort of public service but is so unspecific I don't think it really does us any good. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to think of a better one myself....
I normally end my e-mails with the closer... "Keep 'em Flying" in honour of the Second World War's aviators. Our unofficial squadron motto is "Keep the Momentum Going."
"Missions for America" works albiet it lacks a certain "cool factor."
But then we are here to preform "missions" and not just to look and sound "cool."
Quote from: ELThunter on November 19, 2006, 04:11:18 AM
The real question is What missions for America?
No kidding right! :)
Missions for America
Cross into the Blue
Army of One
The Few the Proud
What's the problem? I'm waiting for the Cable TV campaign.
Don't forget:
AIM HIGH
Which, of course, is the last place you want people aiming, since that's where the planes are...
Quote from: Eclipse on November 19, 2006, 08:10:07 PM
Don't forget:
AIM HIGH
Which, of course, is the last place you want people aiming, since that's where the planes are...
I thought the latest one was 'Do Something Amazing' ;D
I'm not a huge fan of '...Missions for America.' But, it does beat the heck out of 'best kept secret', I loathe saying that about any organization you want people to know about.
Anyone have ideas for an even more suitable slogan?
Quote from: mlcurtis69 on November 19, 2006, 08:22:54 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 19, 2006, 08:10:07 PM
Don't forget:
AIM HIGH
Which, of course, is the last place you want people aiming, since that's where the planes are...
I thought the latest one was 'Do Something Amazing' ;D
It is. And the Army's new one is "Army Strong". No, I don't know what that one's supposed to mean either.
Quote from: shorning on November 19, 2006, 08:27:12 PM
It is. And the Army's new one is "Army Strong". No, I don't know what that one's supposed to mean either.
Given the fact they took me, probably something about breathing & having all appendages. :)
How about "Be part of the solution!"
Quote from: Al Sayre on November 19, 2006, 08:33:43 PM
How about "Be part of the solution!"
Where are you going with that one?
"Ordinary people, extraordinary service"
or something along those lines?? I don't know. Just thnking out loud...
Quote from: DNall on November 19, 2006, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: shorning on November 19, 2006, 08:27:12 PM
It is. And the Army's new one is "Army Strong". No, I don't know what that one's supposed to mean either.
Given the fact they took me, probably something about breathing & having all appendages. :)
It's the "fog-a-mirror test". ;) Army really needs bodies (aka 11b's) right now. So, I can't blame them, but I'm also aware of some of the problems it's caused.
I think the standards might be a bit harder for 153A, but I don't for a second discount that I wouldn't have been picked at my age if we weren't at war.
Weren't we supposed to be "Eyes of the Home Skies?" That what we were back in the 40's, and I thought we were dusting off that one.
We could steal the Army Reserve slogan from the late 1970's, "America's Home Team."
Or... there was a book about CAP a while back: "Heroes Next Door."
But...
Since the "Corporate Types" will, I'm sure, want to emphasize our statutory non-combat status, they'll probably come up with:
"We won't fight, and you can't make us!"
I really like the sound of "Eyes of the Home Skies." I wish we would use that one.
BTW, is that copyrighted? I'm making a CAP video and I'm trying to think of something to put at the end and I really don't want to use the typical "CAP...performing Missions for America." Eyes of the Home Skies would be much better.
Quote from: CAP428 on November 19, 2006, 08:54:15 PM
"Ordinary people, extraordinary service"
or something along those lines?? I don't know. Just thinking out loud...
They're using "Everyday Heroes" quite a bit also. However, I can't say I really like that one much.
How about...
"Have multiple uniforms, will travel with AF Mission Number".
Seriously though. I think "Eyes of the Home skies" may be copyrighted and I thought that CAP was using it for a short while.
I don't Care for the whole "Missions for America" slogan. Do I have a suggestion to replace it? No don't.
Quote from: ELThunter on November 19, 2006, 04:11:18 AM
The real question is What missions for America?
:clap: :o ???
How about the Coast Guard's slogan "Jobs that matter" I always had an issue wih that slogan. It suggests that the rest of us have jobs that dont matter ;D
"When you care enough to send the very best?"
Oh, wait... That's been taken.
"America's New Minutemen?"
Or, we could steal the words from the Air Force song...
"We'll be there... Followed by more!" That would emphasize our current ES missions (We'll be there) and the Cadet program (Followed by more.)
Eyes of the home skies I think scares the ACLU crowd, which is always fun, but problematic.
Quote from: CAP Sergeant on November 20, 2006, 01:55:45 AM
How about...
"Have multiple uniforms, will travel with AF Mission Number".
Seriously though. I think "Eyes of the Home skies" may be copyrighted and I thought that CAP was using it for a short while.
I don't Care for the whole "Missions for America" slogan. Do I have a suggestion to replace it? No don't.
Not a copyright issue. It would fall under the trademark or service mark rules.
From the best I can tell, that phrase is not registered with the
USPTO (http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/index.html#uspto).
Quote from: SarDragon on November 20, 2006, 05:31:14 AM
Quote from: CAP Sergeant on November 20, 2006, 01:55:45 AM
How about...
"Have multiple uniforms, will travel with AF Mission Number".
Seriously though. I think "Eyes of the Home skies" may be copyrighted and I thought that CAP was using it for a short while.
I don't Care for the whole "Missions for America" slogan. Do I have a suggestion to replace it? No don't.
Not a copyright issue. It would fall under the trademark or service mark rules.
From the best I can tell, that phrase is not registered with the USPTO (http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/index.html#uspto).
But Congress has this strange wording in the CAP stuff in the USC - "Exclusive right to name, insignia, copyrights, emblems, badges, marks, and words"
The corporation has the exclusive right to use the name "Civil Air Patrol" and all insignia, copyrights, emblems, badges, descriptive or designating marks, words, and phrases the corporation adopts. This section does not affect any vested rights. TITLE 36 > Subtitle II > Part B > CHAPTER 403 > ยง 40306
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode36/usc_sec_36_00040306----000-.html (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode36/usc_sec_36_00040306----000-.html)
Odd blanket protection that seems to go around the need to claim or register a service mark.
I suspect that the "adopts" requirement would actually require some official action by one of our various governing bodies for this protection to apply. If there is a protection, that is. Notice that this section protects our copyrights as well. If this law protected all such words and phrases then a copyright wouldn't be needed would it? Lawyers?
Quote from: CAP Sergeant on November 20, 2006, 01:55:45 AM
Seriously though. I think "Eyes of the Home skies" may be copyrighted and I thought that CAP was using it for a short while.
I don't Care for the whole "Missions for America" slogan. Do I have a suggestion to replace it? No don't.
The "Eyes of the Home Skies" was used by CAP, I have a bumper sticker and hat with that slogan. It does fit in well with our potential DHS missions, doesn't it?
Quote from: Psicorp on November 20, 2006, 04:27:21 PM
Quote from: CAP Sergeant on November 20, 2006, 01:55:45 AM
Seriously though. I think "Eyes of the Home skies" may be copyrighted and I thought that CAP was using it for a short while.
I don't Care for the whole "Missions for America" slogan. Do I have a suggestion to replace it? No don't.
The "Eyes of the Home Skies" was used by CAP, I have a bumper sticker and hat with that slogan. It does fit in well with our potential DHS missions, doesn't it?
I had one of those toy cars and it said "Eyes of the Homeland Skies"
Well, I'm not making the video for money, its just CAP recruiting and stuff. So, seeing how so many people help themselves to the slogan "missions for America" and other similar stuff in such videos/promo items, I'm going to go ahead and use it and hope for the best. If problems arise, I will deal with them as they come.
After all, I really can't see NHQ getting mad about a member making a CAP recruiting video that happened to contain a CAP slogan. After all, thats what we should do: recruit.
428:
Remember the Basic Law of the Civil Air Patrol:
"It is easier to apologize afterward than to ask permission before."
That ain't just a law in CAP.
Very true ^^. I work as a photojournalist and if I went around asking every person if they wanted their picture taken....jeesh, I would be out of a job. I just snap away and say sorry if they don't like it! ;D
Quote from: Major Carrales on November 20, 2006, 04:41:52 PM
I had one of those toy cars and it said "Eyes of the Homeland Skies"
Does it crash into walls repeatedly when you put it on the floor? :)